Pornography Appreciation / Sexual curiousities / etc topic

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I don't think it is illegal to own CP in japan. But publishing / distributing it.
Last time I was in Tokyo, there was still 2nd hand book stores selling Alice Club. It seemed moderately priced (c. 40-50 euros per 200 page book?), and many vintage bondage seemed to be much more "rare" and valued. Of course it's not anymore something what it used to be when it officially was in newstands. I recall published boasted with sales of 25000 or 50000 per issue, which was bi-monthly. I don't think people over there consider it that extreme. It's not like it would be sex pics. More like pre-junior idol, without need of bikinis.
Since, I wouldn't recommend anyone to try export them from Japan and see can they justify it with "nudism", "beach photos", "artistic nudes" and all that, and fact that it's mosaic/black spot censored anyways. There was also Trevor Brown stuff in issues.

Perhaps better and safer targets of hunting from Japan would be Ultra Negative / Too Negative magazines (/books).

[glorycamera]

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/comic-fans-protest-extreme-sex-manga-bans-20101215-18x9h.html

it will be interesting where this is going. they (Japan) got official notes from a U.N. branch not long ago, demanding the ban of this type of material.

It took long time to get them accept the actual CP. While west banned it in 70's and 80's, Japan... late 90's? It might be harder to try justify total ban of drawings, when the original battle against CP in japan was based more on abuse of children, not so much CP itself? If they could not find the victim, they couldn't do much about it. I don't remember where was the interview of one of the high profile names of the business. Was it actually publisher of Alice Club magazine?

I am not enterily sure why exactly they started to try to follow U.N. line on this supject, most of the time Japan doesnt care that much about critiques from outside. Anyway, loli-manga will never disappear from Japan, at least it will survive in countless Doujin-circles. I mean, the material is created by humans - some for money, some for personal fame or statisfaction, you can proberly ban the 1st but it is unlike for the 2nd to vanish.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

When you go to USA, they'll ask in card you fill when entering, if you have taken part of activities in nazi germany or other genocide. If you have been sentenced for drug related crimes and few other questions.
Japan is probably the only country, that when you enter the country and fill the card, they'll have box to check that "I'm not bringing child pornography or other obscenities to japan", hah! It seems like "slight" exaggeration, that everybody who enters, will have to promise such thing. Which probably would affect so small % of people anyways.

Perverse manga/hentai stuff is not some dirty secret smut business, but you will find it from any major entertainment seller. One can try www.amazon.co.jp and type "tenma LO" to search for example. Accept you are over 18 and cover art will show up.

[bitewerksMTB]

So where online do you find the extreme sex/violence Japanese comix?

I have a manga someone got me about the murder case involving girls killed then disposed in oil drums. has some pretty intense artwork. Wish I'd kept the older mangas by the one famous guy. Can't remember his name or the titles. I do still have a big box of comics from when I was a kid- horror, etc. Stephen Bissette's Swamp Thing, bunch of underground comix. I like comix but can't keep up with them. Recently saw huge reprints of EERIE & CREEPY that look awesome!

[glorycamera]

Perverse manga/hentai stuff is not some dirty secret smut business, but you will find it from any major entertainment seller. One can try www.amazon.co.jp and type "tenma LO" to search for example. Accept you are over 18 and cover art will show up.

as a big fan of japanese manga/anime culture (which is wide and deep) i am totally aware of that. it is a fucking huge buisness actually, even
when only 6-7% of the whole market share is hentai related. ecchi is way more, but that is because ever 5th anime today include at least soft
ecchi to attract more (read: male) viewers.

[glorycamera]

So where online do you find the extreme sex/violence Japanese comix?

go http://www.guromanga.com/ and i guess many of your needs will be statisfied :)

[yog]

I have a manga someone got me about the murder case involving girls killed then disposed in oil drums. has some pretty intense artwork. Wish I'd kept the older mangas by the one famous guy. Can't remember his name or the titles.

Waita Uziga - Schoolgirl in Concrete.

The fact that its based on a true story makes it a very disturbing read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junko_Furuta

[glorycamera]

I have a manga someone got me about the murder case involving girls killed then disposed in oil drums. has some pretty intense artwork. Wish I'd kept the older mangas by the one famous guy. Can't remember his name or the titles.

Waita Uziga - Schoolgirl in Concrete.

The fact that its based on a true story makes it a very disturbing read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junko_Furuta

strong stuff. it is clear that the background knowledge changes the feeling during the lecture. it is clear here, that there is a real case on which
the doing of the characters are based and so it gets way more evil, then as it is in "pure fantasy". damn, japanese society is a rather gruesome one.

[Andrew McIntosh]

Waita Uziga - Schoolgirl in Concrete.

http://www.mediafire.com/?znhzwzhvgme

[bitewerksMTB]

http://www.efukt.com/20812_But_I_Dont_Do_Anal.html

and this is pretty damn funny:



http://www.efukt.com/20811_Racist_Pornstars.html

"there are nice black people but the ones that go to movies, aren't"

and again:
http://www.efukt.com/20803_Porn_Directors_Are_Funny.html

[Mattias G]

Have a tumblr that maybe can be interesting for some of you. Just scans from old pornographic magazines, photos, collage i got. 

http://sacredtrails.tumblr.com/

[JHC]

stumbled upon this odd thing today....

dog penis dildo w/inflatable knot


http://www.kinkyconsumer.com/info/magic_dog_penis_dildo.htm



Great gift idea!

[FreakAnimalFinland]

For many years there's been animal genitals as dildos available. You can give it a try to horse or pony in your bedroom, heh...

[JHC]

I had no idea...

heh I gave up mostly on toys years ago anyways after pocketing some disposable speculums while working in doctor's office...after four denials from familiar and mostly free-wheeling  friends I immediately realized probably no female what's been to a gynecologist would allow me to do any stretching or prying...

the only full winner I've used was an electronic stimulation device...and I no longer have any idea where it is.


anyways...it is you isn't it,Mikko,who has it in mind to make bug filled dildos,right?...and animal pieces I think it was?
Those reminded me a bit of an  S. Clay Wilson Checkered Demon drawing/painting/whichever? with the Holy Bone dildo w/bone of Christ (I guess it was) visible inside huge dildo.

[bitewerksMTB]

For many years there's been animal genitals as dildos available. You can give it a try to horse or pony in your bedroom, heh...

It ain't much fun without that risk of getting your guts ruptured.