Asmus Tietchens

Started by bogskaggmannen, September 15, 2010, 12:11:59 PM

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bogskaggmannen

So, which are his best works?

I find the releases I have very up and down, today I listened to the one-sided LP on Multimood from mid-80's "Zwingburgen des hedonismus" and it was as I remembered one of the worst imaginable. One long track of synthesizer patterns, random (synth-) piano streaks, synth choirs. No real evolution and pretty much sums up my ideas of total nonsense pretentious academic experimental music. Thinking someone actually enjoys this for the "modern" classical patterns makes me want to vomit. The "Eisgang" LP from 1995 and "Linia" cassette (both on Korm Plastics) also struck me as very uninspired and tiring.

However - there are other works, like "Die nacht aus blei" CD on Walter Ulbricht which is really good. Darker and more focussed on evolving structures and maybe more "traditional ambient" soundwaves. "Stockholmer totentanz" CD on Artware is also similar in that style.

Zeno Marx

something like this order:
Notturno (if you like dark piano music, as I do)
Formen Letzter Hausmusik
Raum 318
Seuchengebiete
Das Fest Ist Zu Ende (I hope this is the correct one, the one that is a collage collection as one track)

I'd go into loose descriptions, but I find that I either strongly dislike his albums or truly enjoy them.  Very good or complete boredom.  I'm not sure I've ever had a tepid response to one of his albums.
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

post-morten

Hey LoveR, not that I'm much of a Tietchens fan, but I picked up a few releases that I ran into over the years. Here's a short rundown of what I have...

Spät-Europa and In die Nacht, both from his early 80's stint with Sky Records. Features sort of goofy, whimsical synthesizer pop with state of the art electronics, vocoders, and rhythm boxes. Next to one of the track titles on the cover of my Spät-Europa LP, a previous owner has scribbled "Ralf Lundsten" which should give you an indication of the merits of the music. However, at it's best moments, I think some of the material resembles the Residents. Spät-Europa also embraces a sort of punk aesthetic, in that all tracks clock in at around two minutes. On In die Nacht Tietchens lets the tracks evolve more, which they certainly benefit from. But apart from their status as historical artifacts, these records don't have much for them anymore. I believe even Der Man himself frowns upon the Sky years today.

Abfleischung -- the coolest thing with this record is the subtitle, "Festmusik zum 3. Symposium der Aktionsgemeinschaft Pädophagie als postnatale Geburtenkontrolle". Sounds like the name of an Einleitungszeit album, right? This is a pretty scattershot affair that displays loads of different styles that Tietchens have explored. From very abstract musique concrete pieces to more droning, industrial soundscapes. Some is OK, some is darn near unlistenable, to my ears at least.

Marches Funebres -- I have the CD reissue which also tacks on the Zwingburgen... piece. I agree, it is quite horrible. But the two other tracks, the A and B sides of the original LP respectively, are probably the best I've heard of any Tietchens. This could also be filed under "dark piano music" of a kind of cyclical nature... repeating patterns and such. Parts have a very orchestral feel, even with some neofolk elements... snare and pounding tom-toms.

Sinkende Schwimmer -- I remembered this as quite good, but renewed listening stifled my previous enthusiasm. Most of it is very difficult to digest, very abstract, academic, austere sounding experimentations. There are some tracks that rely more on reverb and other effects that have a Cranioclast feel to them, which saves this album for me. Thomas Köner supplied the sources for some of this material, btw.

7 Stücke -- a collaboration with Jon Mueller, some American improv drummer I've been told. Here we have collages of concrete sounds, I believe Mueller's percussion that have been processed by Tietchens. The result reminds of some Kapotte Muziek. A quite decent effort, for those into that style.

Then I've listened to some of Asmus' more recent "menge" albums, that positions him in a more contemporary glitch/clicks'n'cuts context. I don't like it at all, but perhaps it's just an honorable effort to push him into the arms of a new audience.

Tommy Carlsson

I would say that Seuchengebiete is the best Tietchens I have heard, but then again there are tons of his releases that I haven't heard. Need to pick up the CD reissue since I sold the LP.

Goat93

I must say, the Best Work is always on Stage and not on CD/LP/MC

bogskaggmannen

That doesn't apply to my experiences - when he toured Europe a few years back and stopped by at Fylkingen here in Stockholm his performance was god damn awful - but then again I don't particularly enjoy his later computer based works. Reminds me of Mikkos question somewhere about "known" artists does not equal selling a lot of records and I hereby relate that also to concerts - even though Tietchens is nowhere near Merzbow in terms of fame in the experimental music scene I was amazed not to see more than, say, 20 people in the audience that night. Undoubtedly, he doesn't really have a fan base here in Sweden...

Tommy Carlsson

Oh yeah, the show where he performed playing a DAT with an overlong composition of R2D2-stuck-in-a-submarine sounds. That was a real yawn-fest...

post-morten

Quote from: bogskaggmannen on September 25, 2010, 12:30:21 PM
That doesn't apply to my experiences - when he toured Europe a few years back and stopped by at Fylkingen here in Stockholm his performance was god damn awful - but then again I don't particularly enjoy his later computer based works.

I agree that it wasn't particularly interesting. But when talking about Tietchens in the context of his performances, one should keep in mind that it is not a regular "concert" - he himself calls them "presentations". In other words, it's just playback... a mix of DAT and CD recordings. Thus, if you don't like his records, nor will you like his performances.

Then just a minor correction; it wasn't a European tour, it was a matter of two Swedish dates, Malmö and Stockholm. In Stockholm I'm pretty sure that most of the tiny crowd came to see Henrik Rylander supporting.

Goat93

He tries to create Soundscapes. I think you should remind that he is no Power Eletronics Performance Act, who will just Provocate.

Its really harder to make such than crying in the micro all the time ;)

bogskaggmannen

Don't want to make this into a "aha, that kind of thread...", but I think I have a fair good idea of what Tietchens is doing - after all I have around 10-15 of his works and I really prefer "soundscapes" to "power electronics".

Not doing anything on stage is ok with me as long as the music is interesting but that was not the case here.

Goat93

Hmm, not doing anything on stage, maybe you have seen really shitty live concerts. But there is not really much, he can do on Stage while playing...

jc

speaking of, anyone picked up the new werkbund lp?

post-morten

Quote from: jc on September 30, 2010, 12:29:22 AM
speaking of, anyone picked up the new werkbund lp?

Are you implying that Tietchens is Werkbund? :-) Now you're opening a can of worms...

Rotteur

formen letzer hausmusik is really outstanding, you couldn't do much better. dark, abstract, noisy..
as for his abilities live - if i recall, the only performance of his i've ever seen began and ended in the lobby. i was denied entry as i had the audacity to walk in a few minutes late. obviously entering the room after the correct time would ruin the music for everyone. and apparently this strict lockout policy is de rigueur for teichens' performances. sound artists eh?

magnus

Quote from: post-morten on September 25, 2010, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on September 25, 2010, 12:30:21 PM
That doesn't apply to my experiences - when he toured Europe a few years back and stopped by at Fylkingen here in Stockholm his performance was god damn awful - but then again I don't particularly enjoy his later computer based works.
Then just a minor correction; it wasn't a European tour, it was a matter of two Swedish dates, Malmö and Stockholm. In Stockholm I'm pretty sure that most of the tiny crowd came to see Henrik Rylander supporting.
Yes i was there as well, for mr. T (don´t even know who Henrik Rylander is... some "dark ambient" star? probably the music genre i find the least appealing of all...) and indeed it was a utter bore. An old tired man sitting behind a laptop that made a standard sounding drone, a few times interrupted by computer crackle... come on.
I´ve had some of his stuff on tape, like the United Diaries stuff, and it´s good enough, but must say i lost all interest after that concert...