Martial

[jake]

Am I missing something?
On paper, this genre sounds excellent, but in practice comes across so dry, boring, stale. I have only listened to a few martial releases but have been less than impressed with all of it. Can some of you provide me with some insight or essential projects/releases of the genre?

[Nil By Mouth]

Some suggestions

Karjalan Sissit
Wappenbund
maybe Linija Mass for the strong industrial element

[linxtyx]

Triarii
Arditi

[Andrew McIntosh]

Sophia. Probably the only project in the genre I have time for, mainly because of the deeper, slower use of samples I suppose. The first, self named album is fantastic to my ears.

[blimp]

how is it described on paper? i've only heard of Sturmfuhrer and it was pretty boring.

[Niko]

Older Der Blutharsch, Von Thronstahl and Karjalan Sissit are pretty good. But it's quite an crappy genre overall imo.

[jake]

how is it described on paper?

It's always been described to me as moody, militaristic, fascist-influenced narrative sounds.
Yes, I checked out Sturmfuhrer and I could not get into as hard as I tried. 

[jake]

Thank you for the suggestions, I have a great deal to look into.

[tiny_tove]

Nobody has mentioned the roots

Romanha
Old Autopsia
Early In the nursery
Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department
Non - In the shadow of the sword

[Strömkarlen]

Or In Slaughter Natives

[Brad]

Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department

These would be my choices for martial industrial.  But can you really call it all the same genre?  Laibach was using martial themes as an elaborate prank mocking fascism, whereas the modern projects like Sturmfuhrer tend to be a lot more literally pro-fascist, unless I have been misinformed. 

[Andrew McIntosh]

I would have thought Laibach would have gone without saying; show me a Martial group that doesn't owe anything to them. As for early Test Department, pure Industrial.

[Nil By Mouth]

Turbund Sturmwerk

A classic. The same title album and Weltenbrand are must own of the martial/industrial genre. Essentials!

[tiny_tove]

Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department

These would be my choices for martial industrial.  But can you really call it all the same genre?  Laibach was using martial themes as an elaborate prank mocking fascism, whereas the modern projects like Sturmfuhrer tend to be a lot more literally pro-fascist, unless I have been misinformed. 

I am not referring to Sturmfhurer, but most of the projects quotes in this post are not active politically. They are more prone to extreme drunkeness and party.

[RyanWreck]

how is it described on paper? i've only heard of Sturmfuhrer and it was pretty boring.

As such:

"Martial Industrial, also known as martial music, is a music genre originating in late 20th century Europe. It often borrows musically from classical music, neofolk, neoclassical, traditional European marches and from elements of industrial and dark ambient.

"Themes range from pounding, percussive soundtrack-like music to rally-worthy dark parade music to cabaret appropriate sexually-charged carnal declarations to mournful marches. Essentially, anything that could be made with traditional European martial instrumentation relating to the artists within this genre could be considered a part of this musical movement."


I can't get into Martial/Martial Industrial/Crypto Fascist/whatever, either. Everything I have heard is very drab and uninspired.