Quote from: WCrap on January 10, 2011, 08:11:22 PM
Please check out greek composer Jani Christou, it doesn't get more brutal and darker than this.
Especially "Anparastasis III (The Pianist)" is amazing
Very good! When you hear bands, that are labeled as "neo-classical" (in context of "industrial music", that is), most often you are nearly embarrassed about ridiculous approach they have. When you hear the actual avantgarde classical (or should it be rather described as western art music that it is, since it has already rejected most characteristics of classical period?), often you still wonder the deep rooted will to stick to "regular instruments".
Grand piano, obviously having the versatility to be both melodic and percussive, sharp and eerie,... violins, cellos, etc having very good sounds and variation to do things. Yet, when you look at the group of percussionists, you wonder, what is the nonsense of the kindergarden flashback marakassit & mini drums, hehe... I know they add certain textures, but I do wonder if the composer did state what exactly should be used and if cymbals and toms couldn't be replaced by something more "experimental" solutions. Which are not instruments per se, but could produce perhaps more interesting results in mix.
Surely, there are several composers who include electronics, tape manipulation and such among classical instruments, but I guess we may end up to another discussion. Not just "darker and heavier" classical, but contemporary art music.
With classical music, it is both easy, and extremely hard. Availability is enormous. Libraries are filled with recordings to take a look. Even in relatively small place like Lahti, I can walk to library, and check out any solo instrument or orchestras of various sizes, and there is pile of recordings to listen at well equipped listening room or borrow free of charge. The more obscure it gets, the less there seems to be interest, and some of darker and heavier material can be later purchased at the sales when they clear out shit nobody wants. Usually sold for like 1-2 euros.
Not to mention radio. Classical comes out non-stop, and I guess it is more of the night time, when in Finland some may want to check Ääniversumi or such programs which may include finnish or foreign contemporary art music, from "classical" to electro-acoustic to field recordings to electronica. There is (was?) one program in... saturdays? Which deals exclusively about classical music performed with wrong instruments. Cello sonates played with viola or violin, or some hand build ancient instrument of similar nature. When compositions done for 4 violins are transformed for 4 saxophones and so on. Every piece well introduced by guy who knows what he's talking about.
Many of the cities have some sort of music hall, also in Lahti our Sibelius House. I recall there was some Penderecki in their 2010 summer schedule, but planned visit for this.. ehm "gig" was late. About 2 weeks too late. It's not like those opportunities would be promoted within circles I usually get my information.
I guess I've mentioned this in other topics, like electro-acoustic/musique concrete, etc.. that noise & PE would probably benefit greatly from some influence of this kind of music. When you think about the setting such as Jani Christou's piece mentioned by WCrap, how much intensity they can build by the sense of space, ability go from quiet and suppressed to brutally intense. Very few of even cut-up noise artists manage do this with noise. One could perhaps think only R&G, Sudden Infant,... few others. Who have applied some of these methods.
And due the wish to hear such material, one probably just have to take measures in his own hands. During 2010 I completed album which is pretty much as close to ideal to my liking as I could reach. Now in pressing, to be announced next month :P
