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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: damaru on August 03, 2012, 01:27:16 PM

Title: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: damaru on August 03, 2012, 01:27:16 PM
couldn't find any threads for this....

im looking for a list of Artists in this style. Does not have to be German!

Genocide Organ
anenzephalia
ex order

etc.

please list all that you know. well known and obscure

regards,
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: tiny_tove on August 03, 2012, 01:57:52 PM
absolutely my favourite "style", I have grown up with that and still give me the boner although not much new blood apparently.

Anyway you MUST get OPERATION CLEANSWEEP, my personal fave and definitely the project with loudest volume and weilld efined sounds.
Don't miss theri debut POWERHUNGRY.

Then their singer's side project GIFT.

DAGDA MOR is another classic.

Get the early LOKI FOUNDATION compilations (Gaskrieg, etc.).

Then early SOLDNERGEIST works were definitely in that vein.

Stahlwerk 9 - very different material from record to record, in constant evolution.

Thorofon early stuff (Maximum punishment solution!!!) although I love anything they have done.

A bit different, more "ambient" oriented but unmissable is PREDOMINANCE.

Not German but same power/structure PROPERGOL.


Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: damaru on August 03, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
tiny_tove , thanks for your reply

OPERATION CLEANSWEEP is great!

currently listening to - Munich 18/08/2002 - Propaganda For A New Century

have not heard PREDOMINANCE but am definitely interested in the 'ambient' side of this style as well.

looking forward to other members input.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: tiny_tove on August 03, 2012, 02:50:33 PM
there are several projects that back in the days were released by Membrum debile propaganda, Loki Foundation /power and steel and steinklang.

also some rasthof dachau definitely fits the category (there is a thread for them), I also really enjoyed SHWADRON (not sure abou the spelling) and a few more
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Stridulum on August 03, 2012, 03:30:17 PM
As far as German PE goes, SEKTION B is definitely worth a mention.
Saw them live once, and I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: tiny_tove on August 03, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
Definitely!! I was going to write it now.
More in the vein of LOKI foundation/ambient oriented stuff do not miss Italy's finest VESTIGIAL, too underrated and personally one my my fave Italian projects ever (although their sound is pure TESCO/loki style.).

recently, one project that made me think a lot about those days: http://belaten.bigcartel.com/artist/trepaneringsritualen
both the ritual stuff and the more aggressive/vocal oriented stuff shold be of your taste.

a bit different, but definitely deserves attention Human Larvae
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 03, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
Perhaps lesser known or less appreciated germans...?

Advokat Ihrer Hoheit (söldnergeist related. LP of 500 copies shouldn't be impossible to find)
Drape Excrement (with more BDN'ish death industrial)
Wolverine (before Predominance - I only have the tape on LOKI, how was 2 tapes before it?)
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Niko on August 03, 2012, 11:26:05 PM
The more harsher material by Haus Arafna(The Singles 1993-2000 CD covers most of their harsher material quite well)
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: THE SKIN on August 03, 2012, 11:33:58 PM
Anenzephalia?
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 04, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
Quote from: THE SKIN on August 03, 2012, 11:33:58 PM
Anenzephalia?

Absolutely! One of the best. And coldest.

All due respect and admiration for HUMAN LARVAE but he comes from a totally different direction than all the above mentioned greats. A different generation and style of industrial as well IMO. Let that not put anyone off though. I love Human Larvae! He has a new album due out on L-White soon.

THOROFON!

Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Stridulum on August 04, 2012, 01:45:36 AM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 04, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
All due respect and admiration for HUMAN LARVAE but he comes from a totally different direction than all the above mentioned greats. A different generation and style of industrial as well IMO.

I agree. I have the full length cd and he reminds me a lot of NTT with some hints of Propergol here and there.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
Maison Close eponymous CD on Force Majeure is a must for all into this genre
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Nil By Mouth on August 04, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
My memories coming back to some not well knowed german projects as Phosgen, DJK, Diktat, Ariane V.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Nil By Mouth on August 04, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
Wait.. Diktat is a side project of Gabriele Giuliani. Not born in germany but I remember that the sound style is the same of the overmentioned projects
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: tiny_tove on August 04, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
diktat is run by a friend of giuliani, more con-dom oriented soundwise,
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Goat93 on August 04, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
The Whole World Nihil Stuff (Matthias Mützlitz) like Iron Youth, Black Banner, 120 Days of Sodom and other 1 Million Projects.
Fleisch macht Böse
MAO
RxAxPxE
Rasthof Dachau sometimes
Dachauer Lustknaben
Deva Loka, SRP, Sturmovik i'm not sure
Irikarah
Netzach
Diutesc (Project of Ex GO Singer)

Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 05, 2012, 12:25:08 AM

The Phosgen LP is well-worth seeking out; last track on s2 is intense! DJK sounds familiar but there's a lot on discogs with those initials.

maybe A Swarm of Locusts? Split 7" on Stateart is very good/heavy but I do not know if the project was also from Germany. Discogs doesn't give any info.

What about Victim Kennel? Seems like they were from the Fatherland but a little more rough sounding. Seems like I had a cd-r along with the War Against Society set.

I have a tape or 2 by Wolverine (maybe a split?) & remember them being much better than Predominance.

First 3 vinyl releases from Thorofon were damn good then the 2nd full-length LP is good but after that, I stopped paying attention.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Steve on August 05, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
"Fragmentation" CD by Canadian project Orphx fits beautifully into this catagory - I have never heard owt else by them. Also French band Sonie.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 05, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
Netzach

Their LP is pretty good. Very heavy.

Oh, thought this was about acts FROM Germany, not 'german'-style...

Yeah, Orphx were pretty good. I think I've met one of the members but can't remember. Could have been a label-head who did a comp with Orphx that I also contributed to.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Steve on August 05, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
Yeah, first Netzach album is an absolute must - wasn't the chap inviolved also part od Stabat Mors and early Column One? Could be wrong (I usually am).
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Bondage Culture on August 07, 2012, 02:16:04 AM
Another great one:  Einleitungszeit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VVwRQMuj04&feature=plcp
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Zeno Marx on August 07, 2012, 03:49:16 AM
Quote from: Bondage Culture on August 07, 2012, 02:16:04 AM
Another great one:  Einleitungszeit
Absolutely.  They've come a long way without looking back or forgetting where they've been.  The past couple of albums, Human Scrap and Die Infektion der Geburt, have been difficult to beat.  One of their downfalls can be too many tracks, thus too many ideas, so these albums aren't incredibly cohesive; but  track to track, there are some bona fide classics and top shelf powerhouses on them.  Some of the sounds they get are not only unmatched, but they're also unique.  Those albums may lack cohesion and lose their way [as albums], but they're skilled at everything they do.  Every once in a while Gelsomina treads in similar waters.

Human Scrap
"Like a convoy of Tiger tanks and a squadron of war machines, this is some of the most destructive work they've done in years. I don't remember them ever getting this violent. It's less of a flowing album and more of a representation of the many highly skilled sides of Einleitungszeit over the course of 11 tracks. On the front side of the CD are a couple tracks of old school power-electronics ala the noisier side of Whitehouse, and I'm not using the that reference loosely. In the middle, there are a couple of inviting, menacing, cold, stark, dark ambient tracks, one of which has a soft spoken French woman reading throughout it. On the back end, you have a few tracks with vintage Einleitungszeit furnace blasts, hydraulic press steel manipulation, frying electronics, etc. One of the devastating industrial tracks is like an all-out viscous battle between a glass factory and a steel factory; some of the best sounds they've ever made. Fear not, for the final tracks are absolute triturators. If you think you like industrial sounds, if you think you know industrial music, you haven't experienced the pinnacle of the genre until you've heard these folks."
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: tiny_tove on August 07, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 05, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
Netzach

Their LP is pretty good. Very heavy.

Oh, thought this was about acts FROM Germany, not 'german'-style...

Yeah, Orphx were pretty good. I think I've met one of the members but can't remember. Could have been a label-head who did a comp with Orphx that I also contributed to.

saw them live in Erlagen about 10 years ago.
they were the highlight of the festival. everyone was there for Pan sonic, which somehow got lost in the way, but that was enough for me to be happy .
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Stridulum on August 07, 2012, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Goat93 on August 04, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
Sturmovik i'm not sure

Sturmovik is much more... should I say "military ambient" with industrial leanings? Not so heavy and power electronics.
At times they remind me of Turbund Sturmwerk, in other parts I get a clear LJDLP influence. Nothing groundbreaking, but a good listen nonetheless.
I wonder who the guys behind this project are, I still like their two LPs pretty much.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on September 04, 2012, 02:35:29 AM
Mention of Orphx reminds me of -

Cazzo Dio - ill tempo della locusta
Often rhythmic, occasionally harsh, pe-ish flatulance. Good stuff. Other Cazzo Dio I've heard is more firmly in the vein of harsh noise... extremely harsh noise, as I recall.

Funny, but I'd thought to mention both of these in response to the request for Dissecting Table-like recommendations, but then I decided I had no idea what fans of DT were necessarily looking for.

Early SPK, an obvious influence on all the above, would be another likely contender...
EDIT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVRlPZOF8PQ
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Human Larvae on December 29, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
been going through some older stuff lately, some Memvrum Debile. Any infos on Three Times Hate - WKK? Who did this project? Seems to be a one off
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: pregnantfilm on December 29, 2013, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on August 04, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
Wait.. Diktat is a side project of Gabriele Giuliani. Not born in germany but I remember that the sound style is the same of the overmentioned projects

Second the DIKTAT recommendation.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 29, 2013, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: Human Larvae on December 29, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
been going through some older stuff lately, some Memvrum Debile. Any infos on Three Times Hate - WKK? Who did this project? Seems to be a one off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_N7xMx5KFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiGDi4DtHE

Don't quote me on this, but wasn't it Irikarah related?
Compare to for example this done year after as Irikarah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RBusG2O9_o
Vocal effect styles and sounds...?

Should really give a spin for the two first Irikarah vinyls!
Kampf-Sequenzen! What a great title!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY6vtS16zoI
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 29, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
At least around same time came out DAW CDR, which is confirmed Irikarah side project.

http://www.discogs.com/DAW-Der-Schwarze-Bunker/release/254117
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: l.b. on December 29, 2013, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 03, 2012, 01:57:52 PM
DAGDA MOR

totally fucking necessary!! not always 'power electronics' but definitely always great.
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: l.b. on December 31, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
does anyone have info on early german industrial group (guy?) SEG? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQS2ov_OzbE
Title: Re: 'German' Heavy / Power Electronics
Post by: Human Larvae on January 01, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 29, 2013, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: Human Larvae on December 29, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
been going through some older stuff lately, some Memvrum Debile. Any infos on Three Times Hate - WKK? Who did this project? Seems to be a one off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_N7xMx5KFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiGDi4DtHE

Don't quote me on this, but wasn't it Irikarah related?
Compare to for example this done year after as Irikarah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RBusG2O9_o
Vocal effect styles and sounds...?

WKK has some nice powerful tracks, e.g the links you posted, others are a bit odd with their weird synth doodle melodies. But yes, it definitely sounds like Irikarah


Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 29, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
At least around same time came out DAW CDR, which is confirmed Irikarah side project.

http://www.discogs.com/DAW-Der-Schwarze-Bunker/release/254117
I have DAW also. Pretty bad imo...
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 02, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
I was searching if there was a topic of new heavy electronics groups, but couldn't find it.

KEVLAR "Totalism" tape came out while ago. Just got it couple days ago and already few times in tape deck. To me, this project belong among best of the new bands what clearly belong to style we could call heavy electronics. Not so much of ripping noise and improvised elements. Great skill of actually making interesting sounds, creating songs without being "music". Not just some random oscillations behind screamo vocals, but clearly spending time on detail. Spoken samples, processed shouted vocals buried in mix. Rhythm loops, what are never indicating of "dancy element", but cold mechanical patterns.
It appears they never rely on purely "pre-set synth" type of stuff. Seen so many boast with owning MS-20's with total inability to create anything you couldn't do in 2 minutes of trying out buttons. These guys seem like spending time on details of frequencies, types of distortions and creating patterns beyond most obvious square-wave buzz. Compared to many of the older German bands, KEVLAR has slightly same kind of fuzzy and electric sound like Shift, while musically it's certainly different.

If one has not yet grabbed this or even "Criteria" album, I'd recommend strongly. I think new tape would be even better than album before it?

Some self promotion, easy to listen some sample of LP in new FA store, heh...
http://www.nhfastore.net/kevlar-totalism
http://www.nhfastore.net/Kevlar-LP
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: totalabuse on January 03, 2016, 04:40:06 AM
Just grabbed the Kelvar LP .... Thanks for the heads up ... These samples sound great ...
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: online prowler on January 03, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: totalabuse on January 03, 2016, 04:40:06 AM
Just grabbed the Kelvar LP .... Thanks for the heads up ... These samples sound great ...

Mandatory LP. Kevlar's latest weighs a ton as well.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 03, 2016, 05:04:23 PM
If anything deserves attention, it's Kevlar's first cdr, "Alpha Strife". That needs a re-release immediately. Heavy Electronics.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: totalabuse on January 04, 2016, 04:38:55 AM
i added the entire Country Club discography to bandcamp in high quality form for free...

Brothers EP
The Pigs Unscathed
Live Aktion One

https://countryclubusa.bandcamp.com/ (https://countryclubusa.bandcamp.com/)
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: yosef666 on January 05, 2016, 07:00:37 AM
As far as newer acts go,  I highly recommend Terror Cell Unit. Strong rhythms, powerful vocals, excellent use of samples and an unrelenting performance. One of my favorite active projects period.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Qve0RgrEk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_8Qve0RgrEk)
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: Ernpe on January 05, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: online prowler on January 03, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: totalabuse on January 03, 2016, 04:40:06 AM
Just grabbed the Kelvar LP .... Thanks for the heads up ... These samples sound great ...

Mandatory LP. Kevlar's latest weighs a ton as well.
Agreed. Haven't listened to the tape more than once yet, but the LP - one of the best of 2015. Such a heavy, detailed sound vinyl.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: martialgodmask on January 05, 2016, 11:26:33 PM
More heaviness from the house of Unrest coming soon, sample track from forthcoming Abscheu tape release

https://soundcloud.com/unrest-productions/abscheu-v

Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: SiClark on January 06, 2016, 01:11:51 AM
Just heard that sample today, sounds really good.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: burdizzo on January 06, 2016, 11:26:35 PM
Yes, sounds amazing - can't wait for the release. An LP of it would've been nice, but you can't have everything. Actually, I must say, Unrest consistently puts out top-notch stuff. I don't think I've been disappointed with any of the releases I have, so far.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: Zeno Marx on March 05, 2018, 03:33:54 AM
Thorofon - Roots 2016

It's more rhythmic and available that first school Thorofon, so it makes sense to be on Ant-Zen (not a new association), but it's not all that far off, at times, from being appropriate for Galakthorrö.  It's not quite up to Galakthorrö standards either, but it's approaching that realm of possibilities.  And I love the cotton candy heavy electronics pulse of "Stone Against Head".  With a little more listening, I might even consider that track a classic.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: tilde44 on March 05, 2018, 06:12:10 AM
Sleeping with the Earth for sure, but he was never too prolific with recording.  Live sets were unmatched heaviness though.
Title: Re: Heavy Electronics - Power Electronics
Post by: Zeno Marx on September 17, 2018, 02:51:59 AM
Been impressed with Offerbeest.  That Clawing/Offerbeest split is solid too.  Clawing holds their own, so if you prefer clean vocals, there you go.  It's good I didn't know Offerbeest was GNT.  Cannot stand that name.  I wouldn't have bothered to listen to Offerbeest.  But yeah...liking what I've heard a lot.

https://nailbattapes.bandcamp.com/album/split-2