Warning: Contains "Beat Shit"...

[Japsi]

Evenin' troops,

I'm exploring mixing harsher elements of noise with a more compositional, rhythmic and song-based approach, so I'm looking for any feedback/advice. I used to release under the name Chav Stabber, but that was largely just improvised and recorded on-the-fly, as well as being more about chaotic, harsh noise.

The new project, Japsi, is more about working-class anger and hatred in Britain today. I'm still developing the sound, but I've hit a point where I feel drawn back to harsh noise and need some inspiration to stick to structure. It's been a while since I've been involved in noise, so I've kinda lost track of what's happening and I wondered if anyone's doing something similar? Any recommendations?

This is the most recent track I finished: https://soundcloud.com/japsinoise/underclass

[holy ghost]

There's an excellent thread called "noise and the beat" I believe if you dig around.

One record that initially turned me off due to the rhythmic/drum machine aspect was the Marshstepper 12", initially I heard it and thought "this is just not for me" but I gave it a spin recently and was kind of impressed by it. Haven't dug in enough to formulate a definite opinion but I enjoyed it the second time around.

[W.K.]

Stromstad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4YX3Hyfv7E

[MyrtleLake]

Laureate "Eurekaphilia" (Hospital Productions, 2020)

That relatively recent album may fit the bill. It really surprised me. Some parts harken to a 90's rhythmic noise / industrial flavor. It wasn't what I expected and is impressively constructed—both individual songs and as an album.

Anything from Worth in the last year or two is perhaps more challenging to the concept of a "beat." I would still call it rhythmic without a doubt—and clearly "noise." The sounds that evoke my opinion bring to mind reciprocating constructions of an artist's making that don't repeat exactly in their contents' revolution. I find a thread of impression from Worth's recent output that harkens to the early Evil Moisture / Andy Bolus stories I've read of. For example, a fan blade running against a rattling, broken air conditioner or some such mechanized, reciprocal mayhem. Worth has a more composed, intentional sound, though, than Bolus's on the edge of deconstruction / falling apart / loss of control.

[ConcreteMascara]

Here's the thread Holy Ghost mentioned. Definitely a good place to start.

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3518.0

Perennial recommendation for Converter. Also as a somewhat recent Dissecting Table devotee, it's easy to recommend his first 8 or 9 albums. Not so much techno beats, but there's a whole a lot of structure. The aforementioned STROMSTAD album is top-tier (all STROM.ec material too). Anything by Sektor 304, especially their two albums on Malignant offer a lot of rhythm. I personally worship all of those artists for their willingness and success in fucking with rhythm and proper structure.

A little self promotion, "beats" show up across most Concrete Mascara releases and also figure prominently in the upcoming Screloma reissue I'm releasing on Vanity Recordings.

And if you want more techno/dance-ish oriented stuff Ant-Zen, Hymen, Hands Productions, Ad Noisem all have releases that go from excellent to very, very bad.

[Zeno Marx]

There's an excellent thread called "noise and the beat" I believe if you dig around.

for sure

Noise and The Beat
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3518.0

Industrial Techno
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=9308.0

[Japsi]

Thank you all for the links and recommendations! Much appreciated.

I'm splitting off the Japsi project and doing a new harsh noise one too. Cannae keep away fae the noise...hahaha!

Cheers troops, I'll definitely check them all out.

[Japsi]

Stromstad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4YX3Hyfv7E

Instant erection. Holy mother of fuck...it's like the guy pulled the sound out of my head and made it real.

The production is excellent; sounds and textures are spot on; vocals, outstanding. I think I hate this guy.

That's seriously given me some inspiration. Now, trying not to rip him off...hahaha

[Japsi]

Laureate "Eurekaphilia" (Hospital Productions, 2020)

That relatively recent album may fit the bill. It really surprised me. Some parts harken to a 90's rhythmic noise / industrial flavor. It wasn't what I expected and is impressively constructed—both individual songs and as an album.

Anything from Worth in the last year or two is perhaps more challenging to the concept of a "beat." I would still call it rhythmic without a doubt—and clearly "noise." The sounds that evoke my opinion bring to mind reciprocating constructions of an artist's making that don't repeat exactly in their contents' revolution. I find a thread of impression from Worth's recent output that harkens to the early Evil Moisture / Andy Bolus stories I've read of. For example, a fan blade running against a rattling, broken air conditioner or some such mechanized, reciprocal mayhem. Worth has a more composed, intentional sound, though, than Bolus's on the edge of deconstruction / falling apart / loss of control.

Checked out this one from Laureate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMyZgr3idlY - Definitely right up my street and brings it all together in a really raw way. Didn't expect that 80's synth part towards the end!

This live set from Worth is pretty interesting, and I see what you mean about how he challenges the whole concept of a beats. That's something I'm looking to bring to this Japsi project too, but a bit more controlled like what Laureate and STROMSTAD are doing.

These are excellent suggestions, thanks man.

[Japsi]

Here's the thread Holy Ghost mentioned. Definitely a good place to start.

http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3518.0

Perennial recommendation for Converter. Also as a somewhat recent Dissecting Table devotee, it's easy to recommend his first 8 or 9 albums. Not so much techno beats, but there's a whole a lot of structure. The aforementioned STROMSTAD album is top-tier (all STROM.ec material too). Anything by Sektor 304, especially their two albums on Malignant offer a lot of rhythm. I personally worship all of those artists for their willingness and success in fucking with rhythm and proper structure.

A little self promotion, "beats" show up across most Concrete Mascara releases and also figure prominently in the upcoming Screloma reissue I'm releasing on Vanity Recordings.

And if you want more techno/dance-ish oriented stuff Ant-Zen, Hymen, Hands Productions, Ad Noisem all have releases that go from excellent to very, very bad.

I'm all about that very, very bad techno/dance...hahaha! Cheers mate, I'll need to get a list together and start buying stuff again. I've still got loads of CD-R's, tapes and all sorts from the Smell the Stench days, so I'll probably have some decent trades.

[Japsi]

There's an excellent thread called "noise and the beat" I believe if you dig around.

for sure

Noise and The Beat
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3518.0

Industrial Techno
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=9308.0

Cheers mukka, I hadn't seen the Industrial Techno thread so I'll need to give that a look tonight.

[sadneck]

This recording of mine contains parts where a beat is present:

https://danieljgregory.bandcamp.com/album/eyelash-fountain

Initially intended as a collage/cut up of harsh noise, snare improv and field recordings, it developed into an almost 'techno' record towards the end. Though it obviously isn't at all, but maybe you'll hear what I mean.

[Japsi]

This recording of mine contains parts where a beat is present:

https://danieljgregory.bandcamp.com/album/eyelash-fountain

Initially intended as a collage/cut up of harsh noise, snare improv and field recordings, it developed into an almost 'techno' record towards the end. Though it obviously isn't at all, but maybe you'll hear what I mean.

Cheers mate, I'll add that to the list!

[Japsi]

A little self promotion, "beats" show up across most Concrete Mascara releases and also figure prominently in the upcoming Screloma reissue I'm releasing on Vanity Recordings.

Just heard this one YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0ErgcNpUU and I see what you mean about the "beats" along the first section. Nice work, absolutely savage sounding and the switch around four minutes is really well executed.

[sadneck]

This recording of mine contains parts where a beat is present:

https://danieljgregory.bandcamp.com/album/eyelash-fountain

Initially intended as a collage/cut up of harsh noise, snare improv and field recordings, it developed into an almost 'techno' record towards the end. Though it obviously isn't at all, but maybe you'll hear what I mean.

Cheers mate, I'll add that to the list!

Thanks! No worries if you don't get around to listening to it though. It was just interesting to me to think of it as the 'beat' element was unintended, but evolved from the initial idea and recordings.

I know a lot of people dislike beats etc in noise - why is that?