Quote from: ImpulsyStetoskopu on June 26, 2020, 04:55:38 PM
So I am giving up :) Sorry, but I can help you if you don't know what were classic rules in visual arts or in the music over 2000 years based on which all the art before Avantgarde were created. Sorry. It is fundamental in discussing about art ;)
As I wrote earlier, we can talk about questionable things but not about evident.
Well i'm glad you are giving up because we or i - seem to be annoying folk. As for not knowing the classic rules, certainly in music and the visual arts there are non that remained fixed for 2000 years. "From the thirteenth century onwards there took place remarkable innovations in melody harmony and rhythm..." The introduction of perspective, and at the beginning of the 2othC its abandonment...
The development of tonal systems Harmony and forms such as Sonata, Symphony etc. not to speak of the development of instruments, notably valve instruments... the Piano, Saxophone up to electric amplification and electronics.
AKA - you cant help because you don't know - it seems. So as they say, you cant put up so rightly youve shut up.
As for the previous post, i gave Wagner as building on the old - your example of non avant garde, and Schonberg's serialism a creating something new. You seem unable to be consistent regarding your own theories. You might like to think why.