Started by Thermophile, October 26, 2020, 11:54:39 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 23, 2023, 08:32:12 AMChryptusrecords is certainly right in a way that noise is not one place. It is not one "community", where you could somehow kick out or cleanse something. All types of things co-exist, and vast majority of people are very flexibly interested all things good noise. Same guy will buy Joe Colley and Xenophobic Ejaculation, Slit Throats, Envenomists and Brethren. For many there is no division or factions. All things noise is liked, and supported. Many times there is no active opposition for something. Like thinking someone is editing Golf magazine. He is being offered article and photos about rubber fetish. Editor doesn't have to oppose and boycott anything, when he simply says I don't see why my magazine should have such stuff, when it's about... other things. In same way noise label may not want political rant recording or filthy sex, if that's not what they are aiming to express with label they are doing. They may have nothing against such thing existing in realm of noise and certainly not calling for action against it. Simply do not fit their own idea how they run things. Absolutely good thing.As opposed to "scene pressure", I suppose there has been talk elsewhere about social media guidelines and such being counterproductive for underground. Guiding what kind of records you can even talk to. What kind of records you could post and review. Something against the guidelines, and these is strong possibility that you'll be soon out. This can quickly lead that noise or power electronics we can, or we feel we can talk is certain type, and rest we can not mention. Just like distro or podcast needs to consider can they mention bands like X and Y, so people who dislike those bands, do not press report button just out of spite. Because they know it may eventually mean restricted visibility and such.I am fine with other places restricting visibility. As example, Finnish Experimental Music group (facebook), dedicated to promotion and news and whatever, does not allow anything related to Freak Animal or Filth & Violence posted on it. Regardless the content or release or artist. If artists post that they have this great new album out, message is deleted. I don't mind and I know F&V could not care less. It is just funny, that the mentioned group is so quiet and dead, despite 4 digit followers, that only thing that can stir discussion is mentioned labels. Everything else causes pure apathy. Too bad, but that's how it is.I think it can be revealing to tell how SI as forum was born. Those who have been around for couple decades, easily remember importance of chondritic/troniks forum. Those who were on forum early enough, may remember that it was not THAT big in beginning. Not all those sections and subsections. There was like noise talk, that included just about everything. Quite soon it became clear, that just about every time some power electronics and industrial noise was being talked or advertised, there was influx of dorks who always were there trolling and dissing. You know the type. That guy who can't hold his horses about "oh porn again! oh this is so old! Noise is not all about filth!". Indeed, but that's like only thing they appear to be obsessed about. So suggestion was there, why not have NOISE and POWER ELECTRONICS as separate sections. Who to put in charge of PE side, who can handle the expected slander, abuse and shit throwing? Maybe that dude from Finland who can handle anything, eh eh... That's what happened. Whining about it was still enough that moderators wrote script that you can't say my name on the forum. People may remember that typing "mikko" on that forum resulted name being automatically replaced by word "dogfart". That was great fun.I may be biased to say, but it really shifted dynamics of forum, where A LOT of interesting discussion of both, power electronics AND noise was happening on that section. Eventually when the main forum was falling into endless bickering and shit talk and drama, it was time to open SI forum. First invite all the regulars of that forum Power electronics/industrial noise side, then make it public for anyone to use. Those early days of forum set the example what kind of discussion is encouraged. If you stir drama, if you stir fights, if you keep trolling and mocking as main activity - then GTFO. This is forum for noise lovers. If you really fucking loooove the noise, you have the resilience for the qualities and expressions that are not your own taste. Go to different topic, talk about different thing. Pursue into active advancement of your favorite noise, not endlessly whining and bitching about something you dislike. I would assume anyone looking into mirror can honestly evaluate if they tend to be generally bitching about or advancing noise. I know some can't help it, but as a forum moderator I strongly advocate the latter one for purpose of pushing noise to your favorite direction. Whatever that may be. Guideline for dummies: Open topic about artist / label / release you want people to know and talk about, not topic of artist who you think sucks ass. On this forum, all styles of noise ok.
Quote from: AdamLehrerImageMaker on March 24, 2023, 05:00:25 PMPeople can make and put out whatever junk they want but someone needs to sort through the worthy and the garbage and make distinctions.