Started by WCN, October 18, 2021, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 27, 2022, 09:53:46 AMGood one again. I guess longest thinking moments could be cut away to get faster pace... but in other hand, not in such a hurry, haha.. Excuse for long message cluttering WCN topic, but there is interesting thing what is mentioned, but no real conclusion made. Those who have not yet watched the episode, there is question about why CD would be 10-15 euro, while tape is more expensive to make, but can't be usually sold for high price. Prices used to be 5-7e. Now they are 7-9e. Some labels, more.I think question of the prices of tapes vs prices of CD or records, is something where most tend to forget that price of format in general, is not only the manufacturing cost. In most music styles, there are A LOT of other costs involved in making album, where the actually price of pressing the CD, especially the disc itself, is the smallest. (...) If you send out bunch of freebies in hopes of review, or even sending out big box of royalties to overseas can add significant extra cost to CD, what isn't often calculated when you compare it with some self financed C-20...?
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 27, 2022, 09:53:46 AMStill, I am sometimes amazed when people would talk about "getting your money back". As that tends to often mean exactly that. Literally getting your money back. It seems more like need of evaluation what is money and what it is one really needs? There are some people, very few, who does it for legit work. They may need money back for sake of sustaining their operations. Pretty much everybody else seems to have strange new school attitude. Everything is commodity, and everything is for profit and money is what is key element in all. To me it seems exactly zeitgeist of the culture now, another topic they deal in WCN podcast. It could be good topic to dive further. To talk in what ways noise is alternative culture, if it gets trapped into operation that is 100% same as mainstream culture, just less successful? Anyways, getting your money back, is often irrelevant. Money as means of exchange can be skipped. You get back experience, you get back spark to cultivate your creative urges. You get most often life time long friendships that inspire you into new things. Even putting together special tape release.. I would think most do it, just because it is somehow rewarding. To get the task done, as unpleasant and dull as it may have been, simply getting it done is getting something back. Just this summer I was talking to one kid, who father I know, who was insisting to get paid for chopping firewood. I asked him where comes this obsession of money? Don't you realize you get paid, in building muscles, growing motoric skills, stamina, experience all together, being respected for being useful. Money should be the most irrelevant of your needs. Opportunity to man up and not ask for hand outs.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 04, 2022, 09:57:35 AMI was slightly puzzled about the discussion how we should get over "texture" in noise and get into something else. And then even more confused when Incapacitants and such were examples of non-textured noise. what?!? For me it feels like Incapacitants is just about all texture. No "rhythm", no composition, no edits, no... well you know the drill. But turns out, it gets explained later on what is meant by texture. In this case, it's "post The Rita noise". Walls of uniform texture. Tape side filled with single minded rumble. In that sense, yeah, Incapacitants actually has the human texture makers, who actively are knitting it together, but also ripping and shredding. So yeah. It was clarified.
Quote from: Theodore on October 05, 2022, 05:29:48 AMOskar, the idea of listing tops / recommendations in the description of the video is very good and would be very useful. Especialy for us with poor understanding of english, when unfamiliar / not well known artists are mentioned even a Discogs search doesnt help. Hans Krisen ? Smegma's guy project ? Mr. Skinner give that list please.