Huge thanks to k.p.g. for producing this episode. Ron and I spent hours over different 3 occasions trying to get it to work but couldn't get it to work due to bad internet connections and generally kRRRazy computers. Ken drove over there from Philly and set him up with with his cellphone and Zoom and we were finally able to talk, albeit with the phone overheating every 40 minutes or so. Thanks Ken!
