Quote from: host body on February 19, 2026, 03:14:44 PMQuote from: koaksilowicz on February 19, 2026, 01:32:08 PMI hope i got in the right topic. So, I moved to germany and live here for 2 years already. And I am absolutely surprised that the amount of the noise events is miserable. While in Finland you have so much opportunities to go to the live shows. Any idea why that? Or maybe I am missing something...
Not quite sure why noise got so popular in the past 5 years. Back when 100k was starting out, noise shows were still few and far between. Naturally there's been an active scene here since the early 2000s, spearheaded by Mikko so it was a fertile ground for new artists and gig promoters but still, it is quite extraordinary that we're seeing so many high quality projects, multiple shows per year (some with 100 or more people in the audience) and everyone being quite friendly with each other.
There was recent WCN episode where Oskar was saying that its good to be there as Berlin is such a central hub and everybody comes there and so much is happening. I suppose all true, if you look bigger picture, world of art in general. As for noise, I would be certainly curious about international noise shows. As simple reason as think where to go merely on "holiday". Yet, if there would be even moderately interesting noise gig to attend to, it would be something. Berlin is exactly one of those places. Been in Berlin several times, but to go again, feels like there should be reason why to be there. If just hanging out checking what's up, then I can do that in driving distance. Estonia, Latvia or something. So would be very curious that if Berlin really has vivid and active NOISE, or is it just central hum in larger perspective of european art.
The other topic, Finn noise live scene. I don't know if it wise to talk in public about "we should do" -type of topics or not.. but I guess I do have pretty good CV on field of actually completing some tasks. Anyways, at one point, we were talking about this phenomena of Finnish noise shows. When and by who they were done. When it started to happen. Most of all, what the hell actually has happened.
Thing is, that back in the day, before social media, there was mailinglists, zines and flyers, but almost nobody had cameras of video cameras. Very little documentation was done from some of the shows. Because flyers and posters disappeared, zines with gig reports where published fairly rarely, all old forums are taken down and popularity of facebook really hit here quite late? So there is big gap of missing live-noise history that very few really knows or remembers? It was really even kind of surprise, since I was pretty sure that popularity of noise shows really started few years ago, but when you actually start listing noise shows, everything you remember, list starts to become pretty impressive even 20 years ago!
So that's what we did. Three guys from 3 different cities, who were there at the time, playing shows, visiting shows and started send emails back and forth, adding memorable gigs to each year, based on what we can remember, what info can be found from flyers, live releases and so fort. I proposed mr. Noisecast, what if there would be episode recorded for Noisecast (in Finnish, though) that is kind of "memories from shows". Perhaps starting from 1998 and proceeding till 2018. From that time onwards, there is plenty of information found even on this forum.
It is not meant to be "all inclusive, definite history", just based on great and memorable things. Nodding towards the people who made things happen, who sometimes got little credit for it. Saying I was spearheading the scene, is most of all that was visible publisher, distributors and "promoter" of all good things in the underground art (haha..), but what really comes down to actually organizing shows, my input has been pretty small and the actual people who organized vastly more gets never mentioned. Even decade of putting shows at least annual basis never gets credit. Or there is odd prejudice is scene dismissing something out from the "history". Depending on perspective, some could rule out performance scene LaBas or Laalaalaa kind of experimental noise things or try to convince all that Obscurex kontti did was some sort of nazinoise and so on. To be discussed by people who actually were there, could be interesting.
This was the point for episode. Of course it would be about our biased and personal experiences, but necessity to display how late 90's may have been slow start, but already for 20 years ago, the massive flood of shows started and doesnt show signs of ending anytime soon? And it was as broad in a sense of "style" like it is today. Even if it would shrink 50%, wouldn't really matter?