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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 20, 2026, 09:04:56 AMIn sense, that people into local live noise scene - I would estimate a lot of people come and go. In terms of physical international art, it is often amusing to see how many of the same guys are there since the 80's! Like DS book may display, local scenes disappear when couple key figures no longer than and the crucial venues no longer there, but some timeless elements of noise remain.

I've always stressed the importance of creating a physical document and seeking international networking over merely playing / attending local shows. It is simply more permanent, more rewarding than putting time and energy into a local scene that can falter within a few years.

Cranial Blast

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Quote from: Tribe Tapes on June 20, 2026, 11:39:55 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 20, 2026, 09:04:56 AMIn sense, that people into local live noise scene - I would estimate a lot of people come and go. In terms of physical international art, it is often amusing to see how many of the same guys are there since the 80's! Like DS book may display, local scenes disappear when couple key figures no longer than and the crucial venues no longer there, but some timeless elements of noise remain.

I've always stressed the importance of creating a physical document and seeking international networking over merely playing / attending local shows. It is simply more permanent, more rewarding than putting time and energy into a local scene that can falter within a few years.

I concur with that sentiment 100%. Power Electronics/Noise/Industrial has always been and in my opinion, been more so about documenting with some kind of physical product and also making, like you say those connections and networking with others in the world. Local scenes do seem to come and go with time and this appears to be evidently true in America especially. I think by having some sort of documentation out there, then there is a chance for the material to possibly be rediscovered again at a later period in time. It can be revisited and less easily forgotten.

MT

Most interesting label at the moment has finally a proper web presence:

https://www.circleofsolstice.co.uk/

dimmyjean0

Been collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.

dimmyjean0

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.

dimmyjean0

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 26, 2026, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.
that is fantastic! I am wondering if you mean the one on Relapse Records? Retribution By All Other Creatures? I got that from Relapse themselves. The 2xLP, CD and shirt associated with the album. I just sent him enough to hopefully get Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD and hopefully the shirt I requested. Hope this purchase goes smoothly. Email/Money Order purchases are cool and I'm glad he's open to it.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: dimmyjean0 on July 06, 2026, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 26, 2026, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.
that is fantastic! I am wondering if you mean the one on Relapse Records? Retribution By All Other Creatures? I got that from Relapse themselves. The 2xLP, CD and shirt associated with the album. I just sent him enough to hopefully get Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD and hopefully the shirt I requested. Hope this purchase goes smoothly. Email/Money Order purchases are cool and I'm glad he's open to it.

Yes, that is the one!  I picked up the 5CD from him in person last time I saw one of his shows---good stuff as well!  I really appreciate the idea of a massive set of collaborations, and the sheer quantity of artists he works with throughout the set produces quite of range of sounds as a result.

dimmyjean0

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on July 06, 2026, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on July 06, 2026, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 26, 2026, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.
that is fantastic! I am wondering if you mean the one on Relapse Records? Retribution By All Other Creatures? I got that from Relapse themselves. The 2xLP, CD and shirt associated with the album. I just sent him enough to hopefully get Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD and hopefully the shirt I requested. Hope this purchase goes smoothly. Email/Money Order purchases are cool and I'm glad he's open to it.

Yes, that is the one!  I picked up the 5CD from him in person last time I saw one of his shows---good stuff as well!  I really appreciate the idea of a massive set of collaborations, and the sheer quantity of artists he works with throughout the set produces quite of range of sounds as a result.

though it is marketed as a collaborative effort I have also seen mixed information from Google that it's a split. From start to finish I think it's amazing either way. ABSOLUTELY brutal.

Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD I'm sure will delight me in a very busy day. I have the Our Earth's Blood V 7-in and that's collaboration of the Japanese Sound Masters. I had that spinning all yesterday evening. Today's spinning is Live At St. Vitus Bar. One more listening before bed. I get trapped in multiple listenings. Often times I designate a set of releases for the day or just one.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: dimmyjean0 on Today at 03:57:09 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on July 06, 2026, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on July 06, 2026, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 26, 2026, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.
that is fantastic! I am wondering if you mean the one on Relapse Records? Retribution By All Other Creatures? I got that from Relapse themselves. The 2xLP, CD and shirt associated with the album. I just sent him enough to hopefully get Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD and hopefully the shirt I requested. Hope this purchase goes smoothly. Email/Money Order purchases are cool and I'm glad he's open to it.

Yes, that is the one!  I picked up the 5CD from him in person last time I saw one of his shows---good stuff as well!  I really appreciate the idea of a massive set of collaborations, and the sheer quantity of artists he works with throughout the set produces quite of range of sounds as a result.

though it is marketed as a collaborative effort I have also seen mixed information from Google that it's a split. From start to finish I think it's amazing either way. ABSOLUTELY brutal.

Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD I'm sure will delight me in a very busy day. I have the Our Earth's Blood V 7-in and that's collaboration of the Japanese Sound Masters. I had that spinning all yesterday evening. Today's spinning is Live At St. Vitus Bar. One more listening before bed. I get trapped in multiple listenings. Often times I designate a set of releases for the day or just one.

It's definitely not a split---each track is a collaboration with a different project, which come from all over the world: https://www.discogs.com/release/1712673-Bastard-Noise-Our-Earths-Blood-IV?srsltid=AfmBOoq5U_m4S7DjvnW2GrWC2BSHxaQw-EsvpB8h-9A7I7xB6yFO5Ppr

The Finnish collaboration CD is also great, if you are in the mood for more Bastard Noise combining his efforts with others!

FreakAnimalFinland

Finnish collaboration was done so long ago, they had not been yet done THAT many collaborations. It is also so long ago, I don't remember exactly how this went, but I think Wood asked if such thing was possible. I asked artists who I knew appreciated MITB / BN and then forwarded material of each artists to Wood. It turned out very great.

When considering what albums to reissue on FA back catalogue, this was something that had been asked over the years.

What is curious, is that listening it decades after, made me think not only it is EVEN BETTER than I remembered, but also that others seem to agree. So its not just little personal connection there, but it is really one of the stand out releases and different enough to be justified addition to large BN collection one may have.

There is now (music) tribute to MITB out. Finnish sludge band TASER is doing cover song of one noise track. Yet to hear it.
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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on Today at 09:36:18 AMWhat is curious, is that listening it decades after, made me think not only it is EVEN BETTER than I remembered, but also that others seem to agree. So its not just little personal connection there, but it is really one of the stand out releases and different enough to be justified addition to large BN collection one may have.
This disc is absolutely one of BN's greatest achievements in their catalogue.  Flows just as well as any solo album of theirs would. 
I saw Eric back in March and he was in really high spirits.  I probably have about 40-50 Bastard Noise releases in my collection (even after downsizing), and I am still tempted to write Eric for what old releases he may have.
Dead Door Unit
French Market Press
etc.

dimmyjean0

Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on Today at 06:11:08 AM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on Today at 03:57:09 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on July 06, 2026, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on July 06, 2026, 04:30:15 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 26, 2026, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 26, 2026, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 25, 2026, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: dimmyjean0 on June 25, 2026, 04:48:35 PMBeen collecting Bastard Noise for a few to several months and was finally able to go through Eric himself in May and June. I like the aspect that most my MITB/BN collection is a high percentage of vinyl. Compared to other artists in my collection is CD, CDr or cassette percentage wise. I have been on a winning spree for the past couple years of not purchasing mundane noise. All is great and interesting. Bizarre Uproar/Filth & Violence, and now Bastard Noise. All of it is far from the mundane.

I also understand there's been connection between Aspa, Markkula and Wood since 90s along with a few others. I think of 90s word of mouth or was it something else connecting them internationally? I don't want to mislead with misinformation. More of wanting to ask how.

Also  Eric Wood wins my award of the most unwarped records I have ever received in the mail!

Eric certainly loves his vinyl, and he has only the highest expectations for quality.  I was sent a copy of the recent Bastard Noise/+Dog+ collaboration lp, and that has to be the heaviest record that I own---it seems almost twice as thick as most other records in my collection!  He has also used the same vinyl mastering services used by the likes of Tupac and other very big bands.
I think he is very generous as well. Interesting enough while my PayPal is overdrafted, I have been doing email/money order sales with him. I definitely am impressed with his offerings. One money order $125 and another money order $80 and I got a plethora of history of his work and his current work. Along with some patch and sticker goodies. It's a pleasure to see how everything is high quality and no short cuts. Very pleased!

Yeah, getting a 2lp of the Merzbow collab from a few years back for $20 was (and still is) a great deal!  The stickers and patches are just a great bonus.
that is fantastic! I am wondering if you mean the one on Relapse Records? Retribution By All Other Creatures? I got that from Relapse themselves. The 2xLP, CD and shirt associated with the album. I just sent him enough to hopefully get Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD and hopefully the shirt I requested. Hope this purchase goes smoothly. Email/Money Order purchases are cool and I'm glad he's open to it.

Yes, that is the one!  I picked up the 5CD from him in person last time I saw one of his shows---good stuff as well!  I really appreciate the idea of a massive set of collaborations, and the sheer quantity of artists he works with throughout the set produces quite of range of sounds as a result.

though it is marketed as a collaborative effort I have also seen mixed information from Google that it's a split. From start to finish I think it's amazing either way. ABSOLUTELY brutal.

Our Earth's Blood IV 5xCD I'm sure will delight me in a very busy day. I have the Our Earth's Blood V 7-in and that's collaboration of the Japanese Sound Masters. I had that spinning all yesterday evening. Today's spinning is Live At St. Vitus Bar. One more listening before bed. I get trapped in multiple listenings. Often times I designate a set of releases for the day or just one.

It's definitely not a split---each track is a collaboration with a different project, which come from all over the world: https://www.discogs.com/release/1712673-Bastard-Noise-Our-Earths-Blood-IV?srsltid=AfmBOoq5U_m4S7DjvnW2GrWC2BSHxaQw-EsvpB8h-9A7I7xB6yFO5Ppr

The Finnish collaboration CD is also great, if you are in the mood for more Bastard Noise combining his efforts with others!

Was Talking about Retribution By All Other Creatures my friend. I have seen a couple takes that it is a split or a complete collaboration. It is marketed as a collaborative effort.

dimmyjean0

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on Today at 09:36:18 AMFinnish collaboration was done so long ago, they had not been yet done THAT many collaborations. It is also so long ago, I don't remember exactly how this went, but I think Wood asked if such thing was possible. I asked artists who I knew appreciated MITB / BN and then forwarded material of each artists to Wood. It turned out very great.

When considering what albums to reissue on FA back catalogue, this was something that had been asked over the years.
Im glad the reissue states no further remastering was done on the reissue. That's good to know there wasn't many collaborations back then though plenty of splits. I also find it great to know that it was a back and forth of material. One of the tracks that I appreciate the most of an artist I honestly don't know much about or anything really and the track gives me chills is BN/Woundead "Seeing Beyond Mortality". That track is completely a great way to end it. Im sure it was lucrative to reissue after it was asked for over the years.