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[martialgodmask]

A rather random development.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/

I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:

While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.

"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.

Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".

[martialgodmask]

A rather random development.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/

I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:

While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.

"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.

Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".

Further to this, the article displays a partially obscured still *supposedly from the video (*I've not seen it so cannot verify directly) which to me raises more questions in itself.

[RyanWreck]

It will be online forever now, someone even uploaded it to youtube in full a few days ago.

Of course. The "internet is forever". I should have clarified that I was talking more about easy to find streaming sites. Here is a link to the only streaming video I know of that isn't on a share, FTP or torrent and I am sure this one won't last long considering it is imageshack's video hosting:

http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/651/video133801191571.mp4/

]Yes, the screengrab is from the video. Watched it when bitewerks mentioned it with the sound turned off which probably added to the discomfort - I certainly don't think it would have been the same with it turned on given the added New Order soundtrack. One viewing was enough for me. Yes, it's awful to watch as this is/was an actual human being, yet it's oddly ridiculous too (I won't full out say "comical" although it's not too far a stretch of the imagination) as all the notorious stuff mentioned in the video appears to happen once he's dead.

It's really not a bad watch at all, however there are parts where you have to rewind and look again and say "wtf". A lot of it is more ridiculous than anything, i.e. the handjob part.

[HongKongGoolagong]

Lin Jun was seemingly quite an odd character judging from some of the reports coming out - search "midnight cannibalism train". Was this a consensual murder like Sharon Lopatka?

There are some interesting photos floating around purporting to show Luka in the Ukraine with a female accomplice to one of his cat killing movies.

Also saw an amazing b/w picture supposedly of Luka and Karla a few years ago. It does look like she looks now but may well have been a shop.

More body parts found headed for Vancouver elementary schools.

[Jordan]

A rather random development.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/

I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:

While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.

"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.

Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".

If BestGore are charged, I think I want to leave Canada. Maybe I'll try to get people on Facebook to make their status "I am Ernst Zundel" again because I'm such a Slack(tm)tavist but if that doesn't work I'm definitely leaving.

Still, I'm intrigued as to why he sent body parts to two elementary schools on the other side of the country. Can't wait for the trial.



HongKongGoolagong- Do you have a link to this alleged photo of Luka and Karla? Those names have a nice ring together.

[HongKongGoolagong]

HongKongGoolagong- Do you have a link to this alleged photo of Luka and Karla? Those names have a nice ring together.

http://i48.tinypic.com/334p8ip.jpg

Karla in 2008: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4xoeEh4i3skLrAj0vWiCkXYhuZZZEYJtVXZIcVFC9Tw

And here is an amazing resource put together by Magnotta using his cutelittlenemo1 persona: http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-f=1_3906080&N-fa=3906080&N-p=30741259&N-play=0&N-s=1_3906080&N-u=1_465461 - the site is hard to navigate but has lots of information including titles for all his 'art projects' which doesn't appear in news reports. EDIT: that was actually his hunters, not himself for once. Archive of info on his older stuff is at http://www.abproject.org/docs/

[RyanWreck]

Pretty sure that they are posing on the same bed as in the murder video. She's ugly as hell but she should have been in the video instead of that charlie.

[Jordan]

The shadows look kind of funny I guess, but I'm not very familiar with the minutiae of photoshop forensics. I'd like for this to be true.

[HongKongGoolagong]

She's ugly as hell but she should have been in the video

I think her video-making days are behind her, how could she possibly follow up those hits. Lest we forget: http://mascaramurder.blogspot.com/2012/03/karla-homolka-and-fireside-chat.html

[Mikerdeath]

Yes, it's awful to watch as this is/was an actual human being, yet it's oddly ridiculous too (I won't full out say "comical" although it's not too far a stretch of the imagination) as all the notorious stuff mentioned in the video appears to happen once he's dead.

It's really not a bad watch at all, however there are parts where you have to rewind and look again and say "wtf". A lot of it is more ridiculous than anything, i.e. the handjob part.

Carl from Sharpwaist sent me the video, a worthy viewing experience. Quite a case.


Reminded me of this shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NOhghUWZos

[bitewerksMTB]

Doesn't surprise me that Canada would go after the website. Canada is like Germany- make a movie too realistic & they'll go after you:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/artcrime-2011

I was sent the "Art/Crime" docu but the dvd-r was cracked in half. Hopefully he'll send another sooner or later.

[HongKongGoolagong]

Here's a filmography:

2003 : Street Bait 996 : Luka
2003 : His First Huge Cock : Jimmy
2003 : His First Huge Cock 104 : Luka - http://juicytv.com/video/195760/his-first-huge-cock/luka-episode-104 if you must
2004 : Son of Posedon
2005 : BadPuppy.com : Luka
2006 : Adorable
2009 : Monster Cock Jocks 25
2010 : Daddy Mugs fucks Justin

More supposed Karla: http://www.abproject.org/gallery3/index.php/VBKK/P1000192-1431176188 - I doubt it's her or that they ever really met TBH.

"Street Bait 996" would be a great PE project name. He didn't start using 'Luka Magnotta' as a name until August 2006 so seems he took the name from his porn moniker.

[tiny_tove]

Meanwhile in Miami

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/girlfriend-defends-miami-attacker-face

His gf looks like an actress.

[bitewerksMTB]

Someone is spending a little too much time researching Luka...

"Daddy Mugs fucks Justin" is pretty funny. The titles make me think of 8mm films.

[HongKongGoolagong]

Someone is spending a little too much time researching Luka...

Hey, I always thought about joining some of those true crime/web sleuths forums but all the moralists, perverts-in-denial and generally judgemental fuckers look too much hassle and irritation to deal with, even compared to specialolympics here.

Uploaded a rare Luka Moors Murders fetish video found on abproject archive to my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQx5_YxQsZs - faint possibility it was actually made by the animal rights activists following him under names like hollywoodloveletters.