What are you reading

Started by Tenebracid, January 15, 2012, 08:40:21 PM

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Hyena

Quote from: Cantleman on May 12, 2026, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: Hyena on April 09, 2026, 11:01:35 PMDan Davies: In plain sight - the life and lies of Jimmy Savile. I heard the Last Podcast guys used it and it was just a little over five quid for the phone on Amazon, which is nothing for recently published true crime books.

At almost 600 pages, it's very comprehensive but also an easy read. It's crazy how he managed to get away with it all his life, and how he worked the entire establishment from papers to royalty in order to cover up his offending. Goes into detail on a lot of things the press and Netflix didn't. The sheer size of the case is staggering, as you probably already know.

Will pick that up.

Recently read the sensationalist Shaun Atwood book on Savile, was quite good for a laugh.

I met Savile once. Got a photo with him


Read that one too. It was... different to the Davies book, let's say.

Cantleman

Will move it up the tbr pile in that case so I compare them better....

Kayandah

Murderland
A book that supposedly links serial killers with lead poisoning but for most of the book this amounts to little more than rick/gary/ted grew up near a smokestack. Its only in the last chapter the author explores the clinical evidence to support this whereas I would have preferred a more thorough analysis.

I also read In Plain Sight based on the recommendations in this thread, that was probably the be all and end all of Savile books.

Dingdop

Omoo - Herman Melville

On chapter 35? Roughly halfway through, I really want to DNF it, but ever since reading Moby Dick, I have felt the need to read everything he did. Not as good as Typee yet, which was entertaining and at times deep and radical for its time, but he has landed himself in a prison among the local tribe of the island he is on, so it may yet get good. It just feels like a drag so far, besides the chapters about Rope-Yarn and Dr. Long Ghost, of course. Once I finish his works, I am going to read "Herman Melville - A Biography" 1 & 2, by Hershel Parker (RIP).

Mostly posting to rant about his new biography series by John Byrant, "Herman Melville: A Half-Known Life," not about the content, but about the price. A review said it is obvious they are print-on-demand volumes, and they are charging nearly $400 retail for volumes 1 & 2 of a planned trilogy. Any ideas or insights into the business or academia about why that would be a good idea?

P.S, today is Melville's birthday; everybody say happy birthday!

Vrenndel

Finished reading Fever House by Keith Rosson. Dark, brutal, feverish indeed, without any filters or compromises. Really enjoyed this one. Fans of the Bourbon Kid books, step forward: this one's for you.
Maltraitance Animale - Honte

Atrophist

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Quote from: Dingdop on August 02, 2026, 12:58:51 AMMostly posting to rant about his new biography series by John Byrant, "Herman Melville: A Half-Known Life," not about the content, but about the price. A review said it is obvious they are print-on-demand volumes, and they are charging nearly $400 retail for volumes 1 & 2 of a planned trilogy. Any ideas or insights into the business or academia about why that would be a good idea?

I looked this up quickly, and it seems the first two volumes are well over a thousand pages in total. The author will have spent years, if not decades, working on it. I know next to nothing about Melville, but this seems like it's meant to be the definitive biography for him. Even dusty academics shuffling around campuses in tweed jackets and corduroy pants need to eat.

If there still are universities and students who know how to read, and have attention spans longer than a minute 50 years from now, they'll be able to pick this up (and I do mean the very same book, these very pricey editions are made to last) and it'll still be relevant.

Finally add to that the fact that this will not sell millions, or even tens of thousands. English literature departments in universities around the world will order one copy each. How many absolute Melville fanatics are there, who'll order one for themselves? A few hundred maybe, a thousand?

Comparable publications in science, law, finance etc. will be even more expensive, due to the amount of peer review and legal complications.

SIEGSIEGSIEG

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Quote from: Atrophist on August 02, 2026, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Dingdop on August 02, 2026, 12:58:51 AMMostly posting to rant about his new biography series by John Byrant, "Herman Melville: A Half-Known Life," not about the content, but about the price. A review said it is obvious they are print-on-demand volumes, and they are charging nearly $400 retail for volumes 1 & 2 of a planned trilogy. Any ideas or insights into the business or academia about why that would be a good idea?

I looked this up quickly, and it seems the first two volumes are well over a thousand pages in total. The author will have spent years, if not decades, working on it. I know next to nothing about Melville, but this seems like it's meant to be the definitive biography for him. Even dusty academics shuffling around campuses in tweed jackets and corduroy pants need to eat.

If there still are universities and students who know how to read, and have attention spans longer than a minute 50 years from now, they'll be able to pick this up (and I do mean the very same book, these very pricey editions are made to last) and it'll still be relevant.

Finally add to that the fact that this will not sell millions, or even tens of thousands. English literature departments in universities around the world will order one copy each. How many absolute Melville fanatics are there, who'll order one for themselves? A few hundred maybe, a thousand?

Comparable publications in science, law, finance etc. will be even more expensive, due to the amount of peer review and legal complications.
Nah. It's just the academic gatekeepers like Elsevier and Wiley milking the money. The libraries will order the book almost regardless of the price, so they abuse it.

I know you mean well, but you are defending these megacorporations (not the actual author and his income) which attack for example Sci-hub and paywall scientific knowledge under ridiculous amounts of money. Lots of controversies. You know peer review is done for free, right? Nobody is getting paid in normal circumstances for peer review. So if you are saying that it's the reason for those prices, well, the publisher is getting the money. Not those doing the work... Also that book author's food is not financed by the book. And in addition it's an Amazon POD book, while the quality is pretty good on those, it's not a special edition or anything like that.

So yeah, you are meant to see the steep price and go to your local library and ask them to get it instead. Which is the sensible answer, but also why they seem to be able to abuse it.


Atrophist

Sure, I get that. And I'll admit that I've been (happily) out of the loop regarding anything academic for well over a decade. Nevertheless, I don't really see how it would be possible to produce a work like this and have it be particularly cheap.