Punk/Hardcore

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HateSermon

I really enjoyed this interview with Dino Sommese of the legendary Dystopia. Still one of my favorite drummers/vocalists. Though I can not fucking stand crust punks, this is one of those bands that for me, never gets old. Also glad to hear that the band will never play again. As much as I'd like to see these dudes live, some things just need to stay in the past.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKAxptf0P4

urall

Quote from: HateSermon on March 09, 2022, 03:39:30 AM
I really enjoyed this interview with Dino Sommese of the legendary Dystopia. Still one of my favorite drummers/vocalists. Though I can not fucking stand crust punks, this is one of those bands that for me, never gets old. Also glad to hear that the band will never play again. As much as I'd like to see these dudes live, some things just need to stay in the past.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKAxptf0P4


Have seen a part of this already and Dystopia (& Asunder as a matter of fact too) will forever be one of my fave bands too. I was lucky enough to seem them twice or so back in the day, never disappointed.

war

I come from an Oi! / hardcore skinhead background myself. First time I heard power electronics it completely blew my mind.

FreakAnimalFinland

Interesting writing about Rock-O-Rama records

https://creaseslikeknives.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/the-germans-are-coming-an-interview-with-bjorn-fischer-about-rock-o-rama/

you will get from there to two stories. Mostly it is kind of advertising for upcoming 400pages book on topic (german language), so many replies will end with "more information in the book"...
It covers a bit of RAC, but both book and interview is more about the punk days of RoR, before it become mostly known as label who put out Skrewdriver and other such bands.
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NerveGas

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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 08, 2022, 08:41:27 AM
From new hc punk, I almost bought one LP. Heard this live recordings of KOMA and thought, I really need the LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpPCxOyq4Ok

Then I heard the LP and wondered why does even "raw hc punk" sound so computer processed? Distorted yes, but that above linked live should be rather pressed on LP, cd or tape, and it would be good to get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQVM6LQpy7k

Latest purchases last saturday visited Joensuu city new record store, and they had surprisingly good punk LP section. Finnish punk/hc band SA-INT is something I always bought if there were available in front of me, but would not order anything. In this store I found Ihmiskunnan Historia LP from 2017  (band exists since 1984!). Cheap. Still missing the very latest 7" that came out while ago. These days unless you order direct from label, getting punk 7"s ain't very likely. I got so much hc/punk already, so it's not like I'd absolutely need anything new. While ago acquired probably additional couple hundreds 7"s 80's/90's 7" for myself, so ordering one or two somewhere would demand item to be really exceptionally good.


Almost all new punk suffers from over processed computer approach. Not ever living up to "raw" description. Would be better if bands just invested in 4 tracks and sounded like shit. Not even in an effort to get a vintage sound, but because one must simply ask... would you rather listen to old 80's Scandi, Finnish, German, Japanese, etc. classics or new processed sound of today. I think the answer is obvious. Bands are scared to sound too rough, or perhaps just settle for recording with interface directly into computer with easily accessible digital editing software. As for Sa-int I think they are great Finnish HC perhaps in the same lesser championed ranks with later 80's/early 90's bands such as Treblinka, Tuomio, Sairaat Mielet, Jumalten Ruoska, Attanas, and Stop Vivisection - Use Yuppies compilation. Have never listened to their stuff when they changed name to In-Saint, but I have always assumed it is not very good. Perhaps I will be proven wrong if I give it a chance. Passed up the LP for very cheap last year.

Also, Rock-O-Rama book looks like a must have, but it is only in German correct? And written by a member of Recharge, a band I have not heard mentioned in many years. Regardless of language, thrilled that someone is documenting one of the more important labels of the 80's that released countless classics.
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FallOfNature

I'm much more into the tough guy/beatdown/NYHC styled stuff. These have gotten a lot of plays lately. First one came by mention from the Eternal Champion vocalist. HC out of San Antonio TX. This particular song borrow a LOT from Agnostic Front track from "One Voice''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0I9iIcmEEk

Been into this album for a while but recently revisiting a lot. Straight edge stuff... intros/outros are weird field recordings/ambient loops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx0fwYs0bI


FreakAnimalFinland

Been listening some of the american hardcore podcast. This SSD interview pretty good recollections of how things were with early days sXe, Boston hardcore etc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgQW4bUd_A

For Finns (due language of podcast is Finnish), not really that directly related, but in other hand perhaps most famous "sXe" hardcore-punk band of late 80's/early 90's Finland, Sairaat Mielet. Singer interviewed in 2 hour episode that will cover several topics. Passion for the original hardcore punk, noisy-hc, aggressive no-alcohol, no drugs attitude but musically quite different from what was the straight edge hardcore sound or look. Lots of talk about the Finn punk scene in general:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhgVQCNYuz0

Episode will follow with same singer talking of noisecore, including bands he was in, Arse, Arseslaughter, Yesmeansyes. All in Finnish, unfortunately!
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Euro Trash Bazooka

I absolutely LOVE Sairaat Mielet, the best sxe band ever haha. The "Tippa Tappaa" 7"is one of my favourite punk records ever as he band was musically so proficient compared to their peers. I have a few songs from a compilation tape that don't appear on the discography LP and that I believe were recorded around the end of the band, the material is quite amazing, probably their best written stuff.
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FreakAnimalFinland

There is comp tape called No Pain (vol 1) that has some tracks from demo 1992 that were not published on the comp LP. Also, there is 3rd unreleased demo/ep. It is being talked in interview. Studio recording, but style if radical sXe grindcore. Story goes Sairaat Mielet was approached by european sXe label back then, asking if there would be any new stuff. When he read the lyric translations, release was turned down due too offensive content.

In this interview, lots of interesting talk about old school hardcore and noisy-hardcore. Analysis of the differences what Sairaat Mielet had compared to the youth crew sXe hardcore. As band was hc-punk band focusing against alcohol & drugs, but less about "sXe". They considered themselves rather in lineage of Finnish '82 hc and bands like Lärm. Not among the late 80's straight edge culture, that was separate from traditional hc-punk.
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Euro Trash Bazooka

Yeah, that's the comp tape I'm talking about. Youth crew is the worst thing that ever happened to hardcore after all the good bands from the early 80's turning into shit metal or crossover. I'm also not sure I want to hear straight edge grind core (I always think about Monster X, which I don't like.) I was against drugs and alcohol before I knew sxe existed or heard Minor Threat (let alone youth crew) and the awful music and attitudes are why I never really identified with it (and also why Sairaat Mielet were such a breath of fresh air for me.)

I'd love to hear that unreleased material. Hopefully it'll come out at some point. If the sound is as good as the unreleased YMY LP, it's probably great.
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impulse manslaughter

I love 'youth crew'. Turning Point, Unit Pride, Side by Side, Judge, Youth of Today, Chain of Strength and Brotherhood all made really good records. Esp. when keeping in mind the rest of the scene was playing emo or crossover in 1988.


Bleak Existence

gotta love XXX HC by LARM to XVX of Vanguard purity of mind till the end of time

Zeno Marx

Been on an Excel and The Accused bender for about a week now.  The Return, More Fun, and Martha are such incredible, classic records.  I never tire of them.  Hymns was the next MLP, mostly made up of covers.  Not sure how they went from Martha to this, with its weird and wannabe big production.  I have a tough time getting through Grinning.  The double-bass drums clutter up the sound and annoy me.  Straight Razor is slightly better, but still not good.  I think they must've been listening to Led Zeppelin's Coda and Beastie Boys; just an oddball period album.  Splatter Rock is the best thing since Martha and pretty surprising after drudging through all the funk and hip-hop muck for at least four years.  I don't often listen to the Rejectors split, but I was even in the mood for their standard punk.  I don't understand why bands and labels do things like The Archive Tapes 1981-1986.  They have anywhere from 2-5 tracks from the same recordings, but they split them up and randomly scatter them across a collection.  It's a mess of a listen.  You want a reason for files over plastic?  Here's a good example.  Reassemble them by date.

The Joke's on You has such monstrous, smooth production.  It matches up perfectly with the sailing, furious guitar style.  Powerful, really catchy songs.  It has some period elements that can make you look away for a moment, but still, this thing smokes for me.  I'm OK with those decisions.  I hadn't heard the two demos that followed it until a couple days ago.  They were only available on the Rotten Records 2001 CD reissue.  It's too bad they couldn't have done another album like The Joke's, but they'd already moved into some pretty bad territory by 1991.  I really don't understand the direction, other than like so many other great bands of the time, possibly trying to get some loot and fifteen minutes on Headbanger's Ball.  You can hear why Infectious Grooves was their next stop.  There are a couple few collections of live recordings, and this band was a machine.  The drumming was noteworthy, and that guy could pull it off live.

Back to listening to early Steinklang 2nd and 3rd tier power-electronics and trying to find more like Militia.
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war

Quote from: impulse manslaughter on March 30, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
I love 'youth crew'. Turning Point, Unit Pride, Side by Side, Judge, Youth of Today, Chain of Strength and Brotherhood all made really good records. Esp. when keeping in mind the rest of the scene was playing emo or crossover in 1988.

Youth Crew was awesome, I enjoy all of the scene revivals that it has had as well. Listened to lots of stuff like Warzone, Youth of Today, 7 Seconds, Floorpunch, etc...