Russian electronic, experimental, etc?

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bogskaggmannen

Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics. I have one LP called Insect Culture released by Ark Records.

Got the LP for cheap somewhere but I can't really hear the "industrial" elements that much - reminds me more of a People Like Us vs. C W Vrtacek collaboration - lots of looped samples, cut-ups and saxophone. Are you sure your memory does not play tricks again?

Strömkarlen

Quote from: bogskaggmannen on May 17, 2010, 11:16:19 PM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics. I have one LP called Insect Culture released by Ark Records.

Got the LP for cheap somewhere but I can't really hear the "industrial" elements that much - reminds me more of a People Like Us vs. C W Vrtacek collaboration - lots of looped samples, cut-ups and saxophone. Are you sure your memory does not play tricks again?

Might have. I have to listen to it later today.

FreakAnimalFinland

I think I have mentioned it on other forums, but back in the early 90's, from Finnish TV came document about Russian industrial & experiemental music. At least at that time I didn't know any of the bands. Now I can't remember who was in it. There was a lot of footage, interviews,.. atmosphere was perhaps more into TG/TestDept/Cabaret Voltaire/SPK type of industrial and there was stories about the pioneers of scene who put out reel-to-reel full lengths. I tried to find some Russian stuff, but at that time with very little of connections, only band I found through zines was called NEIRO NOISE. I wrote then and send some early Grunt stuff and band replied they aren't really noise at all.
Demo 93 I got in trade, is discordant 2-3 chord noisy punk. It has some experimental moments, but most likely many ideas taken from CRASS and such. Protest lyrics, simple drum beat and discordant guitar what sets it apart from "regular punk". He gave me couple names I could check out, but totally forgotten.

This is probably hijacking the theme, but if talking of old Russian/Soviet punk, one can say it was destined to be raw. I think several people at least in eastern finland I know had certain interest Grazhdanskaya Oborona. Even with hardly idea what band actually sings about, it is sonically interesting mix of sonic rawness, psychedelia and punkrock. Brutal conditions of being formed in siberia during era on KGB hammer up their ass all the time. Those interested can check out youtube for example. Countless albums available as CD in Russia.
There's link in noise related blog so perhaps others see some connection too?
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/03/grazhdanskaya-oborona-poganaya-molodej.html
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dddonkey

Some members of Grazhdanskaya Oborona had side-project named Communism, which was about musique concrete, audio collages in soc-art vein at al. For the most part of people here it was the first attempt for non conditional music. A lot of people think it's a real industrial and noise.
I like Communism, it's realy fun and terrific.

magnus

Some years ago i was rather obsessed with the Russian industrial music. It felt to me as it was something new, but also very much rooted in the old indurtial style of TG, SPK etc. It seemed like a small "scene" mostly based in St. Petersburg and using many similar atributes but in different ways, like soviet iconic images, machines/factories, influenses from the futurists and creating mysterious atmosphere. Some more noisy some more subtile, repetative and droning. And all from a culture that felt quite alien to me, making it even more fascinating.
My absolute favorite was called HUM (also used other name that i forgot), very calm and obscure drones on tapes with blurry photographs as covers. Also liked very much SAL SOLARIS, LUNAR ABYSS QUARTET (more "ritualislic" with churchbells and chanting), BARDOCENETICCUBE etc. But i think most, if not all, i got had a very high quality and was intriguing in it´s own way. I remember a cdr with theme of Sputnik and Gagarin, but forgot the name of the artist. Almost all releases came in strange handmade covers with sympols and writing that i couldn´t understand. Great stuff!
But after a while i felt it all getting to my head so after some manic collecting i sold it all off, maybe a bit drastic + interest was very low so didn´t get much for it, but that was it.... then i spent some months mostly listening to calypso/mambo records, haha!
Also had some stuff from the Ukraine, it wasn´t quite as fascinating as the Russian stuff in general, more accesable, but still real good stuff.
And the 10" series on Der Angriff label had some true gems, specially the Sal Solaris/Stahlwerk 9 one.

FreakAnimalFinland

Huh!!
VETROPHONIA / F.T.MARINETTI / F.B. PRATELLA "formula of war" cd !!!
Total kill!
So, basically this is Vetrophonia CD, but where the "stolen" old recordings are actually credited. You know the traditional euro industrial method, where some old tracks from past are used as songs, without telling who they actually were made by?
All the utmost orgasmic industrial/experimental/tape-manipulation/sound collage work of Vetrophonia is interrupted by long pieces of futurist music from past centuries. Marinetti and Pratella maybe get ignored within noise when everybody remembers to babble about Russolo, without really knowing anything. Myself included, that is! :D
Absolutely recommended, and being ltd 300 on CD on Russian label, I don't know how well its available anywhere, but few at FA distro.
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kkkkkk

first researches in noise and industrial related music was Arseny Avraamov and Dziga Vertov -in the begining of 20 century.
Vertov was a first ever industrial/noise musician,cause he use field-rec and special composed sounds in his film - Enthusiasm: Symphony of Donbass.
It's kinda Vivenza music but more authentic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUInm2dC6Ug  (for example from 0:40).

Example of Avraamov symphony is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_7w9RHvpQ - the reconstruction of public event in Baku city in 1922.


Also,I would like to note intrestin tendencies - classic music with 'fabric' sound - for example Mosolov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1-_UPwYSM and Sviridov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTVcp2Is78.

there were others composers and experimentators later:

Lev Thermin (creator of termenvox) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4dfYUlW1w

Murzin (creator of ANS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRmDeoQQlw

Artemiev (with more classic electronic music - like Pinhas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po50pva_uhU
Gubaidulina,Kreichi etc

in the 80th there was hometapers explosion, but musicians were often pursued by KGB therefore materials of that music actually didn't remain -
it is possible to list such names as ZGA,Popolznovenie,Communusm, DK, Dimakok,Alexey Tegin, early Stereozoldat and many others used industrial and noise elements in the albums.

later I can write about 90х if somebody becomes interested.

HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics.

I saw Pop Mechanica perfoming in Liverpool UK in 1989. Really amazing powerful show with performance art and use of local musicians (including Echo and the Bunnymen!) as well as Russian visitors. Very memorable.

Mr Phil Monopolka from St Petersburg, who started in a punk band The Man With The Gun, then became surrealist noise act Tea Man With Tea Gum, currently working I guess as Massive Ejaculation and publishing Paddington magazine - well this guy as well as being a friend is a major inspiration for me.

So much amazing art and music from Russia it is difficult to all follow.

hsv

#24
I saw Massive Ejaculation in Tallinn a year and a half ago, it was really bad. But it seemed like it was some kind of comedy/performance act and he was speaking in russian so I guess I just didn't get the joke.

Love Cult from Petrozavodsk is a drone outfit that's maybe more "indie"/"hipster" than industrial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2bwkBlyno
Ivan from the band runs the label Full of nothing that releases mostly folk-ish drone, ambient etc. from what I've heard.

Levas

Massive Ejaculation is shitcore I think so it cannot be taken seriously.

HongKongGoolagong

When Massive Ejaculation falls flat it is truly terrible, but when he is on fire the violence and electrifying qualities of the physical performance can transcend the shitcore origins and become closer to something like Hanatarash: venue space can be transformed, everyone's jaws drop. There is quite a mind behind all the deliberate stupidity too. "Pony Express" CD release of imaginary alternate reality 'demo tapes' of a terrible band is a quite extraordinary collection of mentally disturbed over-imagination with influence of many avant-garde art currents.

I enjoy the music I have of a Moscow collective improvised/experimental band SA ZNA on Leo Records. A mix of jazz musicians and non-musicians improvise dark and mysterious instrumental recordings. Artwork and liner notes also very cultlike and intriguing. Some similarities to AMM but with an A-Band sensibility. I am also reminded of YaHoWa somehow.

eraciator

Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 05, 2013, 09:00:32 PM
When Massive Ejaculation falls flat

And ambitions are low
And resentment rides high
But emotions won't grow.

ALL TOGETHER NOW...

metalpunk

MASSIVE EJACULATION "Pony Express" is actually quite good album.

Zeno Marx

Are Lunar Abyss Quartet and Lunar Abyss Deus Organum the same group?  I like the "Zoloto" track off the V/A Holy Mother Russia comp.  Never enough tribal drums mixed with ambient and electronics.  Any recommendations?
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