NOISE IS DEAD...?

Started by Sleep of Ages, December 05, 2013, 07:34:43 PM

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THE RITA HN

As a base root, I always look at harsh noise as the ageless almighty; constantly reminded by Roemer's classic quote:

"...NOISE is as old as millions of years of volcanic eruption and mountain erosion. The modern industry of metal and machines added more to this mix. All we do is use everything at our disposal to record the true power that had been filling the airwaves since the beginning of time."

It's something like sharks - they were here before us and will surely be here after us. 

HOGRA

Noise can't die because IT'S FUCKING NOISE!!!
It only takes one brain cell to know this.
Any fucking idiot can do it...don't lie to yourselves like you're so cool - it's an idiot's game played by idiots.
And don't give me that "good noise vs. bad noise" crap, because it's in the eye of the beholder, and most eyes are shit!



Lazrs3

Wire magazine said this a few years ago, it's like a current fashion statement.
Wolf Eyes are one band/act amongst many, and not the first in the scene, so why is their view so important, things carry on and develop as with any scene. Maybe folks will play to 10 people like the old days, who cares.

murderous_vision

From my point of view, the only relevant thing to ever come from Wolf Eyes is Aaron Dilloway. He is way more vital outside of the band than in. As for their supposed exit from noise, good riddance! May bro rock nirvana await them...

tinnitustimulus


from David Novak's Japanoise

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noise will be alive until there will be ears and even beyond.
you cannot stop nature.

the interest for noise may die of course, but this happens to many things in life.
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ironfistofthesun

A few years back wolf eyes were on the bill of EVERY major euro festival and large tours, being flown around the world and the full rockstar treatment. Now thats all gone!!! Maybe with declining sales, low bookings and having to go grovelling back to the day jobs is easy to see that the party is now over...I remember one show where merch stall had shitty spray cdr's for 30-50£££!!!!!!

To be honest i have always hated the term "noise", i have mentally viewed the music i enjoy as a form of Industrial culture. When i think of "noise" i see a teenager with a rainbow t-shirt punching the air playing a chaos pad and 2 shitty pedals out of his moms battered old suitcase, meanwhile his three mates push each other about and empty room!!!

if that is on the decline ..then good. Im glad!!!

But after seeing truly mind-blowing performances like Jaakko Vanhala is Dresden or Vomir on a incredible system in Birmingham a few years back and Hal Hutchinson at the Unrest festival, its easy to be clear in ones mind that there are artists out there that will always push way beyond the noise herd.

Cementimental

tinnitustimulus thanks for posting that very apt quote and saving me the bother of looking it up myself.

I think I'm the only person in noise who isn't always moaning about about how bored of harsh noise they are, or on about how they make noise but never listen to other peoples', or how some other (usually hypothetical) group/type of people who make pretty much the exact same kind of sounds as me are doing it so terribly 'wrong' because of the contents of their record collection. :D

GEWALTMONOPOL

Murderous Vision and IFOTS said it best. Wolf Eyes are welcome to fuck off and take the rest of their hippiefied US dude noise with them. The US is in a much healthier state with the newer generation of bands like Vomit Arsonist, Nyodene D and several others. Long may it continue and long may the previous abortion be forgotten.
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ImpulsyStetoskopu

Quote from: ironfistofthesun on December 09, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
To be honest i have always hated the term "noise", i have mentally viewed the music i enjoy as a form of Industrial culture.

The same thoughts.
I guess that people, for whom "noise" is only the next sound to express their useless, anonymous frustration, will never do and feel this kind of way in life. Then some people see NOISE as fashion which took place somewhere in 90s. NOISE as the next phenomena in pop culture... fucking shit
Anyway I love many WOLF EYES releases... Maybe they are assholes, but they make good music often. They aren't only example that somebody talks stupid things but his art is upon his ordinary life.

dmkerr

Hard to say.  Various musics do essentially decline in popularity and, more importantly, often times little to nothing new is being said.  Even though there are still practitioners today, bebop jazz pretty much died after 1970, avant garde "free" jazz in the '80's, pscyh rock in the '60's, and so on. 

I'm not entirely sure I understand the "one way conversation" quote.  Is he suggesting that the noise performers aren't listening to one another (assuming there are more than one performer... an assumption that may be wrong!) or that the audience isn't emoting to the performance?  And does trip metal somehow solve whatever dilemma he's referring to?

I guess any music is alive as long as there are people around to listen to it. I just happen to believe that noise is the culmination of more than one musical roads (not just rock to metal to industrial) that it's hard to imagine it stagnating. Granted, I'm still in "catch up mode" as a relative newbie.

l.b.

Quote from: THE RITA HN on December 08, 2013, 02:08:30 AM
As a base root, I always look at harsh noise as the ageless almighty; constantly reminded by Roemer's classic quote:


yeah this. harsh noise at its best hits at something 'beyond' music.

Goat93

As Long People have the Time to Discuss about it and the Money to make/buy it, i see no "dead" in it.

Its same like Metal, Punk, Oi Ska, Whatever Scene, the Biggest Asses crying about dead dead dead, cause the Money flow isn't anymore. And after some Time, when it begins again to flow, these Asses jumpes out of the Corner to fish more Money. Look at the already really "dead" Metal Scene or the Punk Scene nearly 10 Years ago. $$ i would say

dmkerr

Quote from: SILVUM on December 10, 2013, 12:24:49 AM
Shitting on your past passions is just a reveal of phony intent.

But yeah, heavy fucking sounds will always rule.


Words to live by.

ÂmesSanglantes

Industrial is infinite, noise is infinite.