PLAYLIST with COMMENTS/REVIEWS

[Bloated Slutbag]

Boyd Rice & Z`EV ‎– Untitled
NONscapes of yore throbbing with muted metals massed and milling about in a seemingly improvised accumulation of muffled slip, musty slop, meaty slap. Subtle is a word I use with some hesitation but may serve the means by which multitudinous layers creep up in the fray - notably on the b-side - to yield coarse grainy textures of a distinctly... smudged.... disposition. Like some great god, in his infinite wisdom and cruelty, plucks the two offenders from their recording studio and plonks them in a cave... deep down... to fend for themselves with the serpent of the abyss. Wonderful vocals from Mr Rice, I'm sure - assuming one is believe the liar notes - but nary a single shit-list recitation nor hint of pining for Genghis. Can I hear you say wind-up? Vivenzish jet turbines my ear. Vocalization my ass. Still very welcome achievement for pair of geezers who could have back-dated this 30-odd years with none but my well-massaged holes the wiser. 33rpm for both sides, please.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Though that release wasn't anything too interesting... but lets say, if talking about old timers, listened Sacher-Pelz "cainus" LP on Urashima and jesus christ what a turd!! I'm not that big fan of MB in first place, but even more so I find it hard to think this current situation that has been going for decades, where lots and lots of MB stuff gets released and as far as my experience shows, they pretty much suck almost every time, and nobody is buying them - except few notable classics. Sacher-Pelz LP is such a worthless piece of noise I don't think even historical importance of 1979/1980 pioneering justifies full reissues...

WALDTEUFEL "Eines Gottes Spur" 10"
Eis Und Licht
mr. Wolff also original member in Crash Worship and sometimes live member of Blood Axis.  Label from late 90's to 2010 produced c. 70 neofolk & "dark-pop" releases. This is mostly subtle slow rhythm and slow droning vocals drenched in delay and reverb. It has quite a lot of feel of industrial roots, where effects and rhythm contribute something else than traditional folk elements. Charming clumsy touch in all.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

but talking of Z'ev.. of course lots of good stuff there. Just spinned:

Z'EV "N.A.M.E. Gallery, Chicago, Illinois 03.01.86 " 10"
Crippled Intellect Productions
2004 release of material dating back 1986. 333 copies packaged between two slightly rusty metal plates, where "Z'EV" is hammered in front and numbering on the back. Label run by mr. Vertonen I guess! Lots of releases. Wolf Eyes, Vertonen, Panicsville, Francisco López, Crawl Unit, etc.. Pretty much acoustic percussions works, relaxed and "sliding tempo", just casually beating some metal junk.

IMPACT TEST "Kill Kill Kill" LP
RRRecords
It always amazed me how some killer bands remain so low attention. I guess when not noisy enough, not offensive enough, not old enough to be pioneers, not new enough to be active scene bands, "big" pressings so its nothing rare, etc... Who knows. Industrial Music in the way I like it. No cheesy melodies. No disco beats. No goth rock. Industrial noise tape loops, rhythms, vocals, regular instruments being treated mostly unmusical ways, never quite so noisy as people understand NOISE nowadays, but so much experimentation with sound and abstraction that it is barely "music". At discogs you can still find this Impact Test 1992 debut in big quantities. Probably at least 15 new/sealed copies in price range of 6-15 euro.. don't be fool.

[Bloated Slutbag]

Boyd Rice & Z`EV ‎– Untitled

Though that release wasn't anything too interesting...

I can't say that it grabbed me even after the first half dozen spins, but that the benefit of doubt would so lastingly endure against my (nominally) better judgement is already quite an achievement. It was, at first spin, not unenjoyable – low-key, slow-burning, industrial-strength murk - the kind of thing I wouldn't mind having on in the background over better part of a day. I did not expect z'evNON to deliver anything mind-blowing – I still don't, ha – but it seems that the suspension of doubt eventually prevailed over my (evidently fickle) judgement and at some point all the cumbersome z'evlayerings just clicked. It's as a nice moment as it is rare, when it happens.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

THE HATERS "Cultivating Calamity" 10"
Vinyl Communications
I'm pretty sure I have had this 10" for ages. But found one sealed copy from shelves, so why not! Eroding funnel being amplified though organ speaker. Rotating audio sound creating very simple and very grim noise sound. Not blasting harsh noise, but more like industrial process of grinding metal. Very moderate changes. Mostly just static noise. Nice.

MAN IS THE BASTARD / BIZARRE UPROAR split 10"
Deep Six
This particular recording holds very important position for my own noise listening. Normally I don't "collect" any stuff. I just have what I want (at least theoretically) listen. I don't generally collect different versions. But this I have in few different 7"s, as parts of reissue CD's and now also 10" reissue. No excuses. It is just personally important thing. I consider "Human Condition" being one of the absolute ultimate MITB songs, which is perhaps most successful in combining noise with power violence. But that said, whole side is simply ultimate brilliance. Possibly my favorite release of theirs, still today. Mixing of bastard noise sound engines and musical qualities as well as fierce sound quality is unbeatable!
Bizarre Uproar offers session of extreme nihilistic horror. It's hard to explain anyone why this is not just "pause button edits of drums". Yeah, I know that's about what it is, but such broken barbaryan methods is very rare to hear. How the cymbals sound, how pause cuts malform the sound, all subtle details is just unlike any noise out there. Even BU himself didn't make as wild recording of this style since. "Source of power.." material was technically quite same, but more blurred by distortion making it less original. I would recommend anyone to get this. 45rpm 10" is good sounding version of this release and reissue is done with good taste (all original art etc).

P. Children "P.Ch3" LP
RRRecords
Like Impact Test, another of that category. "Industrial noise" that's not noisy enough. If this would be now published on Belaten or something, people would piss honey, but as it's 1989 on RRR, I guess its destiny is to be 8 euro price range LP available at discogs, heh..
I think 10" from 1991 what came after this is even better. This has some drum machine beats that has not aged so well, but those moments are minority here. Lots of killer tracks with oppressive rhythms. Metal junks. Tape manipulations. loops. percussions. Processed vocals. Neat packaging of transparent LP inside silkscreened plastic sleeve. There exists, I guess 4 P.Children releases and one antholy CD collecting their works 1987-1992. Another item that should be good to grab cheaply now when nobody gives a fuck. I recall I got this sometime years ago when RRR was still selling it. Also 10" is available dirt cheap these days.
Only P.Children thing I found on youtube is side of 7" which came before this LP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZF7sqz_JTo
Many tracks of the LP don't have the beats. Some do, but often just the experimental noise sounds. Anyways, LP and 10" better!

[FreakAnimalFinland]

V/A "STEIN" 2xLP+7"
Verlautbarung
EXTREMELY nice looking compilation. Not only that, but just brilliant listening. I won't go on detail on who did what, but line-up is such great and with diversity in all ways (new/old, bad boys/good boys, etc). Some personal favorites Irgun Z'wai Leumi, Amph, Hal Hutchinson, Jeph Jerman, Clew Of Theseus, Doroga, Dieter Muh, Ochu. But no bad stuff here. Very very well made compilation with perfect presentation.

[ConcreteMascara]

MAN IS THE BASTARD / BIZARRE UPROAR split 10"
Deep Six
This particular recording holds very important position for my own noise listening. Normally I don't "collect" any stuff. I just have what I want (at least theoretically) listen. I don't generally collect different versions. But this I have in few different 7"s, as parts of reissue CD's and now also 10" reissue. No excuses. It is just personally important thing. I consider "Human Condition" being one of the absolute ultimate MITB songs, which is perhaps most successful in combining noise with power violence. But that said, whole side is simply ultimate brilliance. Possibly my favorite release of theirs, still today. Mixing of bastard noise sound engines and musical qualities as well as fierce sound quality is unbeatable!
Bizarre Uproar offers session of extreme nihilistic horror. It's hard to explain anyone why this is not just "pause button edits of drums". Yeah, I know that's about what it is, but such broken barbaryan methods is very rare to hear. How the cymbals sound, how pause cuts malform the sound, all subtle details is just unlike any noise out there. Even BU himself didn't make as wild recording of this style since. "Source of power.." material was technically quite same, but more blurred by distortion making it less original. I would recommend anyone to get this. 45rpm 10" is good sounding version of this release and reissue is done with good taste (all original art etc).

such a good release. I heard the newer Aunt Mary first, which I enjoyed, but this blew that 7" out of the water.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

you mean MITB / AUNT MARY split 10" ?
That's different. It also came out as 10" reissue (of original 7"), and is certainly worth to get! Especially Aunt Mary 1991 7" release crushes 7" they did later, about 10:1..

Markkula & Wood did so many of these things, it can be little confusing.

I think their splits are at the moment:
MITB / Aunt Mary split 7" (later 10")
MITB / Bizarre Uproar split 7" (later 10")
MITB / Bizarre Uproar / UND "Sources of power.." LP (two different cover editions)
Bastard Noise / Bizarre Uproar split 7"
Bastard Noise / Bizarre Uproar split CD
and all these are different releases with different material.

[deathcamp]

SURVIVAL UNIT "Murder for the Mission"
Autarkeia
First try after reading the dedicated threat on this forum. So, this is the re-release of a tape from 2005 on a 3 panel digipack CD, 7 live tracks from the same period are added. What the hell, I've listened it 3 times, forgeting the other stuff I've ordered with! Very well constructed PE/Noise which never lacks this "wild" side, each track has it's own personnality. Great.

IRM "Red Album"
Autarkeia
Classic.

[eyestrain]

WALDTEUFEL "Eines Gottes Spur" 10"
Charming clumsy touch in all.

This is what I've always loved about Herr Wolff's tunes.

V/A "STEIN" 2xLP+7"
Verlautbarung
EXTREMELY nice looking compilation. Not only that, but just brilliant listening. I won't go on detail on who did what, but line-up is such great and with diversity in all ways (new/old, bad boys/good boys, etc). Some personal favorites Irgun Z'wai Leumi, Amph, Hal Hutchinson, Jeph Jerman, Clew Of Theseus, Doroga, Dieter Muh, Ochu. But no bad stuff here. Very very well made compilation with perfect presentation.

Was finally able to ogle over this comp yesterday. It's true, everyone delivers - although I wasn't too moved by Contrastate. Also, nice surprises from Clew Of Theseus (harsh industrial-ish, instead of drone), Niellerade Fallibilisthorstar (looping and intense, instead of jammy scrap sounds) and Jeph Jerman (very Hands To, instead of stone sounds like I expected). Nice booklet too!

[Zeno Marx]

Muslimgauze - several albums post-1998 - possibly (likely) the worst music I've ever heard in my life, and I'm neither exaggerating nor saying that without surprise - I hate Leo Sayer and Chuck Mangione, but they aren't completely lost on me why someone would listen to them. I cannot say the same for these Muslimgauze ideas, and really, that's all they are; just horrible ideas that play out even worse as music.  And if he wasn't obsessed with the Beastie Boys, I'd be amazed.  (Beastie Boys are great)

Analogy - s/t 1972 - great prog/krautrock with interesting female vocals.
Inquisition 2014-02-22 Chemnitz - not the best live recording, but I had no problems with it.
Grateful Dead 2014 subscription disc 1969-12-11 partial show - fantastic.
Comsat Angels - Sleep No More 1981 - I really like the music a lot, but I do not care for his vocals much. The songs feel longer than they are because they weave ideas so well. Great 80s psychedelia, too. I haven't found the BBC session yet.
Comsat Angels - Waiting for a Miracle 1980 - not very intersting at all - unless listening for historical reference, I'd see no reason to listen to this again - contains an EP, the demo, and some outtakes.

Niyaz - Nine Heavens 2CD 2008
Two discs, each with the same songs. One is contemporary with electronics, etc. The second is all acoustic. If you're interested in the Toward the Within vibe; heavy on percussion and an improvised feel, the acoustic disc is highly recommended. They're both top shelf, but I tend to listen to the acoustic more often. 13th and 18th century traditionals arranged with both electronic elements and then with all acoustic instruments. I'm surprised more DCD fans haven't taken to Niyaz and her.

[Andrew McIntosh]

Sacher-Pelz "cainus" LP on Urashima and jesus christ what a turd!!

Not trying to start any shit or change your mind, but I just have to come up and say I disagree. There are moments around the second half when it does drag, but it comes back from that. There's even better material on latter albums. Leaving aside status and so forth, I genuinely like Sacher Pelz, although my prejudice against vinyl would forbid me from getting the Urashima re-release. Anyone interested in SP's earlier material (including "Cainus") really should try to get the box set from Marquis, copies of which are still available on Discogs - all four tapes on cd with a nice lot of inserts if that's your bag.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

haha, no problem! When writing comment, i was almost adding that this kind of thing is something one may think of listening some particular Industrial Recollections releases. Lets say Goldenrod "Brigada Nord" CD for example. I'm quite sure there are people who can't understand is there any REAL reason why those were released beyond connection to Streicher (and Macro/S&Q/Odal), as they are so brutally blunt and rough. Up to taste & personal gut feeling to some extent, but still quite relevant target to criticize...
Anyways, I have few copies of all 4 vinyls in catalogue, so I'd be glad to see there is more people who like this stuff, haha!

Problem with Sacher-Pelz vinyls is also that since sound is so suffocated, main thing you hear is the vinyl surface noise. I would suspect CD release works better for these.

[m.]

Gulag - s/t (Basement Tapes)
old recordings, mid '90s industrial from Denver. really nice tape, including poster and interview with former members (now in Waldteufel).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpCLomZKVvI

[Andrew McIntosh]

The sound on the cds is pretty damn murky. It's interesting that on the more recent SP "In Hoc Urbia" release there's this strange, high-impact buzzing sound that is also apparent on the MB release "Organemia" (almost the same sound), and the latter is basically repetition of loops a la earlier SP. Not sure what the hell he's doing but it's all part of the intrigue for me.

The "right time and place" element with a lot of material is an important factor, for worse and for better. There's certainly nothing wrong with someone saying they have no time for a release or project that has been considered canonical. The patina of time isn't always enough to raise something above a basic level. For mine, I'm more than prepared to admit SP/MB is simply a personal taste issue, and outside of being in the right place at the right time, wouldn't want to insist that he was some kind of Industrial saint. Personally I have no time for Whitehouse and not a great deal for Throbbing Gristle, but I'd just be an idiot if I suggested they had not importance.

I just didn't want you to think I was trying to be deliberately contrary. I was very nearly going to write about how much I dig Mark Solotroff's solo efforts - have been listening to them for months, love them totally - and it never occurred to that one piece was just the other in reverse. I recall Hal McGee had a Dog As Master release that stated that was the case (side "b" being side "a" reversed), and I have no problem with the concept, but I understand it's a bit of an issue if it's not being admitted.