ANTIPAKT

Started by XE, September 20, 2010, 05:09:10 PM

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Ashmonger

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 02, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
yes, paw....  the front feet of cat.

I'm just about lining up the final plans of the insect dildo production line. Meaning casted transparent dildos including insects and/or animal parts inside them. Always sounded good, and doable idea. And guaranteed success among the ladies, I'm sure.

If you need insects, I've got stick insects (several species) at home and have a bunch of dead ones (and parts, they easily break when dried) lying around, so if interested, contact me...

Nyodene D

somebody please move this thread to the golden hall of Valhalla!  it doesn't get ANY BETTER THAN THIS.

Niko

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Quote from: Nyodene D on October 02, 2010, 01:18:09 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 01, 2010, 11:44:07 AMI've been collecting female pubic hair for about.. 2 years?

wut

Very good hobby! You can save some money too, if you use the pubes as an dental floss. ;D
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ANTIPAKT


jake

People speaking earlier about the seemingly contradictory lust/hate statement made by this release: just seems like another link in the chain of this kind of dichotomous thinking coming from Finnish PE as of late. I find it interesting. Seeing XE releases espousing ideas/themes from an American White Supremacy angle ("USA for USA" and the clip of glory glory hallelujah at the end of one of the tracks, etc). What's interesting is this kind of WP thinking in American is usually done from a position of Christian moral superiority: blacks are the devil, sexually promiscuous heathens, etc. But this position is impossible to defend when taken by people that release tapes of spanking sessions and art books on fecalphilia and the like.
It's like the title to the Snuff track "Hail Black Rapists": at once condemnation and praise.
Also, use of Islamic prayer audio in XE/BU tracks.
I don't see it as a straight Nazi/White Supremacy angle; it's deeper than that and I hope to see this explored further.
Any thoughts or am I completely off?   

RyanWreck

Quote from: jake on October 07, 2010, 02:32:03 AM
I don't see it as a straight Nazi/White Supremacy angle; it's deeper than that and I hope to see this explored further.


And I think you would be right. Pasi answered this well enough in the interview on Plague Haus. Here is the section I am talking about

QuoteAnd the project that really seems to work people into a frenzy and is also very near and dear to my heart, Xenophobic Ejaculation. I take that as pretty tongue in cheek, but how serious are your "political views" on those releases?

"Fetishized the things that shouldn't be done or are they in for real" I believe I did put that line to somewhere...

I am very serious about anything I do. Then what is it what I do? That's a hard one. How would I put this...Some of my thoughts about this matter: if you go left you got dreadlocks, tree hugging, unshaved cunts, naive confused kids etc. if you go right there is some silly things for sure but overall there is realism and common sense.

When there is a picture of crushed black face w/steel capped strength or white Aryan flesh hammer giving urine to black cunts mouth.. what it is? sex & violence. I like discord, chaos, tension between races. Of course whites, blacks, yellow, brown won't get along ever. I am not a political person that much I just lean back and enjoy the decadence. enjoy the show. XE is about racial issues, KKK hanging black trash, whites humiliating black whores, steel cap execution, White Power, 3rd Reich - glorious REICH, concentration camps, racial hygiene, white supremacy, xenophobic hate, black whores eating excrement, xenophobic ejaculation etc. etc. etc.

Does this all answers your question? Maybe not. If things would someday go as good as in Germania 1930. And if the ovens would be fire up again. Perverts like me would be thrown there too not in a first in line but right after Jews and niggers for sure. Unless you would join the party and go up on hierarchy hah! only good socialist is National Socialist. As I look at it, Glorious Reich back then was huge S/M session. Think about it. Uniforms, boots, orders given high to down. Kneel and obey, you got orders and you obey, you give orders to someone lower etc. all that rituals and ceremonies. etc. etc. I could write about this subject for whole day. Heh!

Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: jake on October 07, 2010, 02:32:03 AM
People speaking earlier about the seemingly contradictory lust/hate statement made by this release: just seems like another link in the chain of this kind of dichotomous thinking coming from Finnish PE as of late. I find it interesting. ...
I don't see it as a straight Nazi/White Supremacy angle; it's deeper than that and I hope to see this explored further.
Any thoughts or am I completely off?   

No, you're completely on, in my view, and it's great to see someone actually state this. And I don't think it's just recent Finnish PE; I've thought for a while that there's that seeming contradiction between lust and hate in PE generally, and in fact in society generally. PE brings it to a very stark contrast. Which is why I questioned the concept of ejaculation as a symbol of hate in the first place.

For my part, I don't think it has to be conscious; that little quote from Pasi's interview, for example (which I'd read before) shows that his intentions aren't so much trying to be too conscious about it but sensual. Germany during the last world war as a "huge S/M session" - it's not a new idea, I think, but one doesn't have to have a degree in the psychology of dictatorships to know it. The whole F&V aesthetic is about celebrating and enjoying the very tensions Pasi speaks of, without really wanting to get too deeply into understanding the why. Maybe that's a part of it, maybe not, but the outward expression is one of pure libertinage and degeneration.

All well and good; but anyone with a skerrick of common sense knows that it doesn't have to taken that way by the consumer. But there's an added dimension of enjoyment, for my part, when people flip the fuck out over something like this Antipakt release and start arguing, of all things, politics. It's all part of the whole package, and this release is truly one of the best of the year without having to be heard.

(Mind you, I'm still waiting for my copy as I write, although items come slowly through the mail from Finland to Australia, for some strange reason).
Shikata ga nai.

FreakAnimalFinland

Hate & lust is the common male reaction. What I see F&V label doing, is the masculine noise with masculine themes. From beginning of things like "mens magazines", "mens movies", it is just that. Sex, violence or at their best, sexual violence!
There are F&V bands which may investigate themes of fetishized mother-son relationships or submission under female power, yet it is sexualized male choise, I think?
There is a Snuff piece about hate and lust. About unavoidable genetic command what drives towards it. Just like "Nyrkki & kyrpä" compilation (= "fist & cock"). Can it be more male?
To me, seems most logical and most natural pattern of creation. Even if it may sound easy, and one dimensional, it hardly is. Especially knowing these are the powers what makes the world go round since dawn of mankind and can be approached with countless angles with countless conclusions.
By standards of society, it is something what any civilized tries to avoid, but by two-faced reality, it is what is expected and acted on. Almost like the good ol' american justice. Society with two moral standards. Civilized daytime, white nights. With conflict towards legistlation but silent approval.

I know it is a problem of when topics are dealt from interesting angle. What does it offer, what does it say. Sometimes I do also wonder about this baggage of pseudo-intelligent approach. One may ask works of art created about nationalist romanticism, social commentary of violence and oppression, some message about role of females in our world, investigating reasons and motivations and historical backgrounds. Or whatever. And in other hand, the reality may be that we HAVE the authentic case study in front of us. Not people writing about someones opinions and someones actions, but doing what men do. And what people yell to be artists responsiblity, is given to be listeners responsibility. And often they refuse. They don't want or can't find any depth. Or anything interesting. They want it to be pre-dissected & guaranteed to be "more". While infact, its probably less.
I'm quite sure, in F&V camp, most of bands who do releases, don't probably try to intellectualize it too much. They follow the male genetic code of nyrkki & kyrpä method, and result has been so far pretty much... should I say: superior?


But talking about males, since this Antipakt topic has been good for not-so-tightly-related things...:
I was reading book 2 days ago where was quote from Finnish police, when you see newspaper article that man killed another man in drinking session, or one guy found dead in apartment after good old weekend party, there are lots of cases where it is result of homosexual guilt and disgust. And it never gets to papers. Even if it would be technically "hate crime", it is simply buried detail. Where "hetero" male engages into perverted actions with another man, in the heat of lust, and in moral hangover and hateful disgusts, beats up / stabs the partner. That's the story worth of tape! Date rape? boring. Moral hangover anal stab, sounds good. And supposedly % is pretty relevant. Not just individual case. It really puts new angle to classic "drunk got killed over fight about sausage" -stories.
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Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 07, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
I was reading book 2 days ago where was quote from Finnish police, when you see newspaper article that man killed another man in drinking session, or one guy found dead in apartment after good old weekend party, there are lots of cases where it is result of homosexual guilt and disgust. And it never gets to papers. Even if it would be technically "hate crime", it is simply buried detail. Where "hetero" male engages into perverted actions with another man, in the heat of lust, and in moral hangover and hateful disgusts, beats up / stabs the partner. That's the story worth of tape! Date rape? boring. Moral hangover anal stab, sounds good. And supposedly % is pretty relevant. Not just individual case. It really puts new angle to classic "drunk got killed over fight about sausage" -stories.

Excellent!
Shikata ga nai.

ANTIPAKT

ANTIPAKT is not a Finnish project.

jake

Quote from: ANTIPAKT on October 07, 2010, 12:50:54 PM
ANTIPAKT is not a Finnish project.

release on F&V=guilt by association in this case!

XE


SOLD OUT from F&V. I still get emails about this. Next time larger run w/ANTIPAKT if they let us release ´em.


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I belive FreakAnimal also got copies left.


Nil By Mouth

Nice.



Look as a printed version, right? Or is it just a welcomed image?