Quote from: Eigen Bast on March 26, 2019, 06:33:23 PM
Yea, the mystery surrounding the laptop era makes me want to buy a shitty surplus laptop and load it with old VSTs, ha.
It is actually interesting point as well as amusing, that none of the three guys at merzcast have absolutely no idea how the "laptop noise" was made. I am no different. I do not know how people "make noise" with computers. I only use computers for final mix or mastering. I never "generate sounds". Cutting or looping material that is recorded happens in final mixes, but I have never even recorded noise to computer. It's always transferring files from external recorders.
On his Merzcast, Wiese was making his point about computers being "the best tape decks", haha.. Perhaps blasphemous notion to some, but I can see what he means. I have seen him play, and he did really good stuff. Same for the "studio" work. I have no idea what are the programs he uses and how it's done, though. However, I am sure that saying "laptop noise", doesn't really mean much actually. With all those complex controllers what enable full hands-on approach for playing, not just one mouse clicking different adjustments, it is not that far from noise that is done with use digital efx or recording digitally.
That said, the new episode with Amlux was in some ways strange. As if they were slightly careful what to say. Guest, having his first Merzbow CD to deal with, is obviously everything else but objective about it. I am 100% sure that hearing almost whatever noise CD first, might blow your mind. It will make special place to that album for rest of your life, despite hearing better things. Yet Greh and Mike often mention about
not-so-good sounds what they associate with early digital era of Merzbow. They bring up this few times in this episode too. Amlux certainly is not piece of shit. It has it's qualities. It doesn't feel "edited", it feels like Masami is having fun playing free flowing noise. There are good moments here and there, but fuck, it is so obvious how much punch, force and wide variety of ear-candy it is missing. Last 15 minutes of album includes such an awful moments, that I don't think even blasting it loud will fix that. They conclude that there is "little bit if that" (meaning flat, punchless, sort of game type sounds), but sort of forget the criticism quickly in favor to praise the album. I think despite divine status Masami has, it would not hurt to conclude album is not
that good. Even when it would be purely subjective conclusion based on not liking the type of sound. Not from Merz, not from the others. Some of Merzbow CD's are fine for being documents of it's time. Part of transition/development. Not wanting to keep doing "the same" forever. It would be quite odd to underline how great or amazing they would be.
Having been listening Veneorology and Artificial Invagination over the weekend, and yesterday Pornoise Extra, Sadomasochismo / The Lampinak, Mortegage / Batztoutai Extra, and couple others... They are all different era, different style and many of them
great. Yet listening Amlux today, sort of proved my point.
The composition overall, is not
that far away from good Merzbow (although not on same level). He manipulates some tasty sound sources. You can hear still good noise fragments being used, perhaps field recordings, etc. But the sound of computer plugins, some horrid sound stretching, even more horrid mp3'ish /8bit kind of sound (luckily not overtly dominant in Amlux), occasional glitches.... It is not the stuff I will want to listen. There might be people who like the kind of sound type, but I don't know such people.
When there are literally dozens and dozens of amazing recordings, it appears that especially the early digital era, I will keep my distance. Later digital era, and the mix of digital and analogue sounds - that I have to revisit to make any proper conclusions.
Nevertheless, discussion about digital Merzbow would be indeed welcomed. I do think it is possible to conclude if there is something exceptionally good, and I am still tempted to check out. His 80's and 90's works are often so different, yet one can easily point out albums that stand out even if technology/composition/sound/presentation etc is vastly different.