Seen and not seen's, recommendations and queries on top films in general.

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Hakaristi

Men (2022) - A24 folk horror fare tends to be pretty hit or miss for me but a recommendation from Motel Hell podcast pushed me into it; basic premise is woman rents an isolated cottage in the English countryside and is tormented by creepy dudes who all look the same. Stunning cinematography, unsettling electronic/choral score, surreal body horror. Could be viewed as heavy-handed "toxic masculinity" allegory or portrayal of a woman with mental trauma, whatever the intention, very enjoyable!

BlackCavendish

Quote from: Hakaristi on August 17, 2023, 12:12:19 PMMen (2022) - A24 folk horror fare tends to be pretty hit or miss for me but a recommendation from Motel Hell podcast pushed me into it; basic premise is woman rents an isolated cottage in the English countryside and is tormented by creepy dudes who all look the same. Stunning cinematography, unsettling electronic/choral score, surreal body horror. Could be viewed as heavy-handed "toxic masculinity" allegory or portrayal of a woman with mental trauma, whatever the intention, very enjoyable!

I found it really enjoyable even if the toxic masculinity allegory was a bit dull (and honestly it's kinda boring in these days of woke this and woke that...). But Garland's skills behind the camera are indisputable and the final outcome is definitely good. The weird third act, with all the body horror sequence, is a really astonishing cronenbergian moment.
His miniseries Devs is also a really nice piece of sci-fi cinema, dealing with quantum computers and some philosophical dilemma about a deterministic universe. Reccomended view.

Hakaristi

Same podcast was also gushing over his previous work but not being much of a sci-fi fan, dunno if I could stand it.

Atrophist

DEVS was pretty good, but I recall it sort of falling apart in the end. Garland strikes me as an ambitious, but frankly not especially deep or original filmmaker. Annihilation is another good example, sort of "Stalker but with women" — visually gorgeous but in the end you're left wondering, so what did it all mean?

Atrophist

#3349
Anyway, recently watched:

As Bestas (The Beasts, 2022)

A middle aged French couple runs into a conflict with some Spanish hillbillies in Galician countryside. Much of the dialogue is in the Galician language, which to my ear sounds like a mix of Spanish and Portuguese? Very interesting. Just when you think the film is about to go into full Straw Dogs territory, there's a major twist. The second half of the film is quite different, but even more enjoyable than the first. Long, but worth it, in my opinion.

Aloners (2021)

A young woman who works at a call centre strenuously avoids all other human interaction -- even with her dad. Then her neighbor, another loner, dies, crushed under the tons of porn magazines he had in his apartment (this film is set in Korea, but this really did happen to someone in Japan). And then very casually we are introduced to a ghost/haunting element in an otherwise low-key realist drama. Interesting, but lacks a proper denouement in the end.

Durak (The Fool, 2014)

Russian movie. The main character is a plumber who works for a maintenance company that runs some crumbling Soviet-era apartment buildings. His wife, mother, co-workers etc all call him an idiot for trying to do "the right thing", rather than being on the take, like everyone else in Russia. Very bleak and nihilistic, with lots of scenes depicting alcoholism, domestic violence etc. Also, no clear cut, black-and-white solutions, and no happy ending for anyone. Pretty grim stuff, but hey, it's Russia, so ...

Castle Freak (1995)

I'm pretty sure this is the last Stuart Gordon movie I had not yet seen. Based on a Lovecraft story, if I'm not mistaken. An American family with pretty severe issues (alcoholism, dead son, etc.) inherit a castle in Italy with something unnatural lurking in the cellar. Pretty cheesy, low-budget fun with an exploitative edge -- but very good for what it is.

cr

Quote from: cr on July 14, 2023, 04:06:06 PMAnna Eriksson - never heard about her before, until I saw trailers for her films M and W. Looked somehow interesting, so I did quick research and it seems, she is/was one of the most famous Finnish singers, who nowadays makes movies.
So, all you Finnish people here can surely tell me more about her and her films. Are they any good and worth looking for? In general, it seems like a strange move from being a famous singer to become an "experimental" film maker (at least where I come from).
Any informations and personal opinions about her work would be highly appreciated! Thanks


Repost...'cause maybe this one somehow got lost in the summer heat, haha.
Anyone else got something to say, as I'm really interested?!
Anyway, many thanks to Atrophist for sole response so far!
Looking forward to more information.


Atrophist

Hope you get better answers soon! I actually kinda interested too. A friend of mine went to see W, he was the only person in the theater. He said he thought the film was awful, but that "you actually might like it".

Phenol

Quote from: Hakaristi on August 08, 2023, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: Phenol on August 08, 2023, 12:06:30 PMOrgan (mentioned above) is one of my very favourite movies. Haven't seen Naked Blood yet, but it's more in the Guinea Pig style, isn't it?

I think Naked Blood gets unfairly lumped in with Guinea Pig and other Jap shock stuff due to the graphic scenes, but has slightly more intellect and shares with In My Skin the theme of women finding pleasure in self-mutilation (the short film Cutting Moments too). Also, it's directed by Hisayasu Sato who is nothing less than an auteur IMO. Like a Japanese Haneke with the clinical bleakness and concepts of isolation & societal alienation... but via the medium of softcore S/M flicks!

Okay, sound right up my alley. I will give Naked Blood a go then! Do you know if there's any point in watching the prequel, Pleasure Kill, first?

Hakaristi

Quote from: Phenol on August 25, 2023, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: Hakaristi on August 08, 2023, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: Phenol on August 08, 2023, 12:06:30 PMOrgan (mentioned above) is one of my very favourite movies. Haven't seen Naked Blood yet, but it's more in the Guinea Pig style, isn't it?

I think Naked Blood gets unfairly lumped in with Guinea Pig and other Jap shock stuff due to the graphic scenes, but has slightly more intellect and shares with In My Skin the theme of women finding pleasure in self-mutilation (the short film Cutting Moments too). Also, it's directed by Hisayasu Sato who is nothing less than an auteur IMO. Like a Japanese Haneke with the clinical bleakness and concepts of isolation & societal alienation... but via the medium of softcore S/M flicks!

Okay, sound right up my alley. I will give Naked Blood a go then! Do you know if there's any point in watching the prequel, Pleasure Kill, first?

Don't think it matters. Wasn't aware of that one until more recently and yet to watch but appears NB is basically an updated version.

Atrophist

Recently watched:

Duvidha (1973)
First film I've seen by the Indian auteur Mani Kaul, who is apparently very much appreciated in art-house circles. Based on some kind of folk-tale, about a man who has to leave his home only two days after getting married, and a ghost who comes to the house, pretending to be him. The ghost is even able to get the newlywed bride pregnant!

This is an extremely slow-paced film. Stalker is Fast & Furious compared to this. Not that I mind. At best a very beautiful and moving experience, but sadly the acting leaves quite a bit to be desired. And as much as I hate to say this, the clearly very limited resources in producing the film also are quite obvious, and not in a good way -- for example, the dialogue is clearly overdubbed later in studio, quite jarringly, I'm afraid.

Still, a fascinating film, with beautiful Rajasthani folk music and a few memorable shots. Definitely won't be of interest to everyone, but I'm glad I got to see this.

Couple of Japanese films:

Noroi (The Curse), 2005
Found footage horror. A low-rent journalist follows at first seemingly unrelated weird incidents. Slowly but surely, it becomes apparent that the entity behing it all is the demon Kagutaba. This one seems to pop up often on lists of overlooked found-footage horror. It's quite decent, but nothing that special. If you're a fan of the genre, go for it. Otherwise, take it or leave it.

And ...

Helter Skelter, 2012
About supermodel and "it-girl" of the moment Lilico, who's on the cover of basically every fashion magazine in japan. The problem: the dodgy plastic surgery that Lilico has had practically on every part of her body. To no-one's surprise, Lilico's body begins to decay from within and body horror ensues.

A western filmmaker would probably be tempted to give all this a feminist spin and present Lilico as a victim of some kind. Not Mika Ninagava (who is a woman herself, and as a fashion photographer well acquainted with this subject matter): Lilico is possibly the vilest, most disgusting protagonist I ever remember seeing. She sexually attacks, abuses and humiliates her assistant, uses sex to manipulate the assistant's boyfriend to conduct disfiguring acid attacks on competing models. She has completely cut off her own sister, apparently simply because she is a bookish, unglamorous girl-next-door. In every scene, she seems to manage to find the way to act in the most childish, narcissistic annd entitled manner possible. Pretty horrendous stuff, in the best possible way ofc.

The main problem with the film is its apparent confusion in what it wants to be. There's body horror at times, lots of "social media and fashion industry is shallow ok?" stuff, lots of weird sex scenes for no clear reason, even some police procedural stuff (cops investigating the dodgy plastic surgery clinic). Certainly an interesting curiosity, but I couldn't help thinking that someone like, say, Sion Sono would have done a lot better with this material.

The Boogeyman, 2023
Totally formulaic, predictable mainstream horror movie. Not a bad one by any means, and I enjoyed it for what it's worth. Starring Sophie Thatcher, who plays the young Natalie in Yellowjackets.

Ciao Manhattan, 1972
What a mess of a film. Apparently two failed film projects mashed together, in order to make bank on Edie Sedgwick's death. One part of the film is a fictional depiction of a burned out socialite, based on Sedgwick, who at the last minute ended being played by Sedgwick herself. So Edie Sedgwick plays a fictional character based on herself in this film. Or something. She is topless for most of her scenes here, and yeah, she had a beautiful figure and nice breasts. Good luck trying to enjoy them though, as that would require getting past the massive second hand embarrassment, and even pity, you feel for anyone involved in this film.

Towards the end there is some 60's acid-casualty UFO/CIA/surveillance/conspiracy/who gives a fuck -stuff.

I guess some people admire the whole Factory scene and the people involved in it, Is this actually a part of that whole scene, or just some kind of barnacle on its underside? Again, who gives a fuck. I guess as a cultural artefact this film isn't completely devoid of interest, and as such I'm glad I've seen it. That's about it.

Atrophist

Quote from: cr on June 18, 2023, 01:55:07 PMUlrich Seidl "Rimini"
Great! The world of "German Schlager" is sometimes darker than all the PE and Noise themes. Some of you will know what I mean.
 

Haha! Finally got to see this. I think there's always been an element of black humor in Seidl's films, but I think it's more prominent this time around. As with Paradise: Love, there are plenty of bluntly filmed, excruciatingly awkward sex scenes with the aging gigolo and his even more aged groupies. Am I crazy, or is the normally merciless Seidl inviting us to have a smidgen of sympathy for this guy?

The Nazi stuff with the dad is pretty tiresome and has been played out a million times by now. Seidl is in his 70's, so I get it. But the next generation of European filmmakers will have to come up with new reasons for self-flagellation, please.

(Seidl actually kindly provides them in this movie, anyway).

Next one will be the companion piece to this one, Sparta.

Also recently watched Meet Me in the Bathroom, a documentary on the New York music scene in the very early 00's.

The main bands here are the Strokes, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, TV on the Radio and a few others. Also something called "The Rapture" that I've never heard of before and never want to hear from again.

I've never been a fan of any of the bands concerned here, but it's still an interesting watch. Especially how Brooklyn originally became the hipster Mecca that it is (was?).

Musically the Yeah Yeah Yeahs would seem to be the most to my taste, so it's a pity that their frontwoman Karen O turns out to be a boring proto-millennial, who is only interested in talking about herself, and how it's awful that everybody loves her band. The Strokes are all about their posh Swiss boarding schools and expensive Rickenbacker and Fender guitars. They seem harmless but incredibly immature, and the petty squabbles that begin to tear the band apart after the first rush of success seem almost perfunctory, and profoundly uninteresting.

Interpol is the one band that acquit themselves fairly well here, imo. Not only are they clearly musically far more talented than the Strokes, they also display some capacity for self-awareness.

Again, if you have a meaningful relationship with any of the artists/bands here, then yeah it's a no-brainer. Other than that, take it or leave it. Myself as a fan of rock documentaries in general enjoyed it.

Theodore

Le Rempart des béguines (1972) : French. Teenage schoolgirl starts to get laid with her father's mistress. Promising ah ? First third or half of the movie is very good, building expectations -you really wanna know mine ?- that fails to serve afterwards since it progress to a love story. A wasted opportunity ...
"ἀθάνατοι θνητοί, θνητοὶ ἀθάνατοι, ζῶντες τὸν ἐκείνων θάνατον, τὸν δὲ ἐκείνων βίον τεθνεῶτες"

Atrophist

So I watched Ulrich Seidl's Sparta as well, after it's sibling piece Rimini.

Actually nothing that'll surprise anyone who already had seen the Paradise trilogy or Rimini before. This film must have been a nightmare to film, given the subject matter, and the fact that apparently some of the boys' parents in fact are abusive alcoholics, as depicted in the film. It's actually a conversation in itself how we ought to feel about the portrayal of Romanian patenting here, since it makes a predatory foreign pedophile almost seem sympathetic in comparison.

Out of these two, I preferred the unrepentant swagger and sleaze of Rimini.

Atrophist

Beau Is Afraid

Not impressed. Self-indulgent, not nearly as clever as it thinks it is, and much longer than it needed to be. So far, each film this director's made has been worse than the one before.

Yes, Joaquin Phoenix does a good job as the main character, and from a purely from a filmmaking perspective, I guess this is a very skillful display. But there is very little actual substance here, imho.


BlackCavendish

Quote from: Atrophist on October 22, 2023, 12:26:29 AMBeau Is Afraid
Not impressed. Self-indulgent, not nearly as clever as it thinks it is, and much longer than it needed to be. So far, each film this director's made has been worse than the one before.

It's on my watchlist. Enjoyed Hereditary, Midsommar was sort of ok (already self-indulgent but still...), don't know what to expet from this but I read bad reviews pretty much everywhere. Aster's ego is enormous, and I guess he thinks he's too clever for just directing a "simple" movie, especially if it's just a horror movie.

Robert Eggers, a director he is often associated with having also directed a folk-horror film like the Witch, is a way more solid director.