Classical (darker/heavier/obscure/less "traditional", etc.)

[ARKHE]

I've always found Pärt too sacred & celestial for my taste, but perhaps I've heard the wrong (=most famous & popular ie easy-listened) pieces?

Franz Schubert managed composing some really sombre & brooding Lieder, like "Doppelgänger"  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKVnL9JvuO8 (the Pestdemon tape Doppelgänger is of course more than slightly inspired by this piece).

Chopin's prelude in C minor, which you all know from a certain Italian movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c97LsxyoZW0&feature=related (played by some guy, not recording)

Surprised no-one's mentioned Alfred Schnittke & his Requiem. His drifting in and out between minor and major tonality really messes with your ears, very dubious...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqdB3WU_CXI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Dqh5PWbWo - Credo, with a nice drum beat. The deeply religious do it best.

Shostakovich, only getting bleaker and bleaker as the years progressed in Soviet until the '70s. This one is pretty classic, but still very doomy, far from uplifting..!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSoKpCXWF0Q&feature=related
Some of his symphonies are rather heavy as well, I think no.7 ("Leningrad Symphony"), second or third movement, very war-like with this menacing snare ostinato...

Concerning terminology... no I think classical music would generally refer to pre-modern (Baroque through Classic period to Romantic period) art music, and I suppose most canonized Modernist art music... But I suppose classical music in it self reached it's peak and dissolved with Schönberg & the dissolution of tonality. And, of course, classic = canonized (by prominent German musicologists before the wars). It's hard to canonize already composers born in the 20th century. Or composers in pre-Baroque periods who worked under completely different circumstances than the supposed geniuses like Beethoven, Wagner etc.

[ARKHE]

And due the wish to hear such material, one probably just have to take measures in his own hands. During 2010 I completed album which is pretty much as close to ideal to my liking as I could reach. Now in pressing, to be announced next month :P

So is this actually reworking of art music or just inspiration from approaches & techniques? Have been using some... stuff... cut-up  & processed on the full-length I'm nearly finished with, would be terrible to overlap with the same source material..!

Aren't there quite a few composers (with degrees) who simultaneously produce what's labelled as noise/produced within the noise/experimental scene? Any recommendations? Maja Ratjke for example - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maja_Ratkje

[FreakAnimalFinland]

And due the wish to hear such material, one probably just have to take measures in his own hands. During 2010 I completed album which is pretty much as close to ideal to my liking as I could reach. Now in pressing, to be announced next month :P

So is this actually reworking of art music or just inspiration from approaches & techniques? Have been using some... stuff... cut-up  & processed on the full-length I'm nearly finished with, would be terrible to overlap with the same source material..!

Inspired. It has some classical = real instruments, but also mixed with other sources and combined with field recordings. But all is live material (without audience) with no overdubs and with no compression or editing.

[ARKHE]

Sounds interesting! Released as Grunt or under some other banner?

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Alchemy of the 21st Century. Continues the old project.

[bitewerksMTB]

I don't remember the name of the composer but the soundtrack for THE SHINING is one of my faves.

Played the first yotube link in the first post & it's excellant as is this vid of Jani Christou. The first thing I took a listen to reminded me of THE SHINING..

Definitely love dark/heavy classical music. Most of which I think I've come across due to movie soundtracks.

[ConcreteMascara]

Ah Wendy Carlos. That's an excellent score.

[bitewerksMTB]

The 2 Jani Christou videos are excellant. Are they available on disc? Hunted for something to download but came up empty.


Krzysztof Penderecki: This is heavy as hell & same composer for THE EXORCIST and THE SHINING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwaEOyOw9tk&feature=related

from THE EXORCIST soundtrack (I can't find an easy free d/l for complete sndtrk):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE_Y78THIS8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcRYdPgthzg&feature=related

[ImpulsyStetoskopu]

If we talk about THE SHINING... I have always been intriguing who is composer of that music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOoekbK6YI&feature=related

[ARKHE]

ImpulseStetoscope: I'm pretty sure that is Penderecki, from Utrenja if I'm not mistaken (that Pole keeps coming back in this thread...!).Goddamn creepy scene. And an excellent use of percussion so traditional it makes you think of elementary school rhythm pedagogy...

And Bitewerks, when talking about The Shining, you mustn't forget the music from Bela Bartok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAdZr6OQZ-A&feature=related

[bitewerksMTB]

I own THE SHINING LP but never really paid attention to who composed the music other than it was a name I could never remember. Sent those links toa friend who said he has a bunch of his rec'ings. He mentioned this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YrhqB88ZTY

so listening to that now...

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

Penderecki also did the soundtrack for the brilliant film Katyn. I don't know how it would stand up on it's own but in the film it works very well.

[bitewerksMTB]

Here's the info on who was involved with THE SHININGmusic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shining_(film)#Music_and_soundtrack

[WCrap]

The 2 Jani Christou videos are excellant. Are they available on disc? Hunted for something to download but came up empty.

this piece is included in the Jani Christou CD on Edition RZ.

[Andrew McIntosh]

If we talk about THE SHINING... I have always been intriguing who is composer of that music:

Ah Wendy Carlos. That's an excellent score.

Also did the soundtrack to Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange", featuring some very heavy, dark synth tones and a few revisions of older, classical pieces.