Witch Hunt Season is Open

[FreakAnimalFinland]

F&V is beginning to sink so deep underground it is barely visible, unless you *really* go look for it.
Nevertheless, this same "organization" made amusing piece about Filth & Violence / Bizarre Uproar / XE.
Unfortunately no english version. I doubt it will be done.

My favorite bits are:
1) telling how mr. BU is the key player in finnish national socialist music.
2) call for people to fight against the BU type of hatemongers to stop nazi music infiltrating mainstream music.
3) Name dropping Funeral Mongoloids and Lämpimät Juutalaiset.

And it is no joke, but unintentionally funny.

[EXU]

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

I was going to say that now this https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Grunt/3540321816 has the edge but I remembered about Creamface.

[collapsedhole]

too bad the other member of the band took the music down, coulda been the first pornogrind band to make some real $!

[bitewerksMTB]

https://www.discogs.com/Menstrual-Munchies-Preteen-Daughter-Puy-Slaughter/release/11818142

[Balor/SS1535]

F&V is beginning to sink so deep underground it is barely visible, unless you *really* go look for it.
Nevertheless, this same "organization" made amusing piece about Filth & Violence / Bizarre Uproar / XE.
Unfortunately no english version. I doubt it will be done.

My favorite bits are:
1) telling how mr. BU is the key player in finnish national socialist music.
2) call for people to fight against the BU type of hatemongers to stop nazi music infiltrating mainstream music.
3) Name dropping Funeral Mongoloids and Lämpimät Juutalaiset.

And it is no joke, but unintentionally funny.

Interesting article, but a stupid message.

Also, Google does a pretty good job of translating the article to English, for anyone interested.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

There is the new English translation. Like before, it is toned down slightly. Especially language and usage of the "n word" haha..

No idea what they think article like this should result? Perhaps noise people now finally understand there is some filthy and violent releases on label called... ehm... F&V?

[brutalist_tapes]

it is baffling how much the cultural climate has changed suddenly, or maybe i just haven't noticed. as far as i remember, ten years go, it was accepted in sort of leftist/slightly apolitical art milieus that you could enjoy this sort of "tasteless" exploitation in music/films/etc. - in an "enlightened" aesthetic manner or whatever.. now it seems just exploring taboo subjects without directly transparent message/agenda is totally frowned upon.. could never see BU, or even XE, as political in the slightest..

[Balor/SS1535]

could never see BU, or even XE, as political in the slightest..

That was always my impression.  I think that noise/power electronics are often so alienating to many people that they would almost automatically be apolitical.  Unlike some NSBM or RAC, it would be difficult to build a sustainable and widely appealing political platform from it.

[XXX]

as far as i remember, ten years go, it was accepted in sort of leftist/slightly apolitical art milieus

hahaha i am sorry but this too much. were you on the noise fanatics board at the time? they had a shit fit when rrron & mikko released Hammer of Aryan Terror and it didnt stop until this forum was created and a mass exodus happened. how old is the phrase "nazi punks fuck off?"

also, if you cant see how a band like XE calling for steel capped justice isnt political you have your head up yr ass.

[deutscheasphalt]

could never see BU, or even XE, as political in the slightest..

That was always my impression.  I think that noise/power electronics are often so alienating to many people that they would almost automatically be apolitical.  Unlike some NSBM or RAC, it would be difficult to build a sustainable and widely appealing political platform from it.

Just because there's no widespread known subgenres in noise/PE that include promoting political ideologies doesn't mean the entire genre is apolitical

[PTM Jim]

XE is sexual, not political. He has stated that, so that's what it is. Just as if an NSBM band is only such if they state they are.


I understand people not liking PE because of the subject matter. What I don't understand is why they would come into it with torches and trying to change something that has ALWAYS had X, X and X subject matter. It's like wanting to start a goregrind band, but being offended by gore.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

It's like wanting to start a goregrind band, but being offended by gore.

https://antifascistneofolk.com/2019/07/29/the-antifascist-neofolk-manifesto/

[deutscheasphalt]

XE is sexual, not political. He has stated that, so that's what it is. Just as if an NSBM band is only such if they state they are.

I think that's a very ignorant and naive take judging people's intent only by what they say and disregarding other actions. So I can run around publically in a sailor moon costume, put out personal music covered with manga and tell you I'm not into anime and you will believe that? People lie all the time man. Of course it's sexual but looking at the lyrics, artwork, titles and denying any political influence is ridiculous.

[deutscheasphalt]

It's like wanting to start a goregrind band, but being offended by gore.

https://antifascistneofolk.com/2019/07/29/the-antifascist-neofolk-manifesto/

This is so cringe it's actually hard to read

[PTM Jim]

XE is sexual, not political. He has stated that, so that's what it is. Just as if an NSBM band is only such if they state they are.

I think that's a very ignorant and naive take judging people's intent only by what they say and disregarding other actions. So I can run around publically in a sailor moon costume, put out personal music covered with manga and tell you I'm not into anime and you will believe that? People lie all the time man. Of course it's sexual but looking at the lyrics, artwork, titles and denying any political influence is ridiculous.

I get that, completely, but the political aspect is like a vehicle. The whole point is paraphillia towards racism. Racism isn't necessarily politics also.
Plus his (or anyone's) personal preferences may or may not be reflected in the subject. There are plenty of things that are dedicated to to a certain subject, but the artist isn't into it personally.