Also in regards to hip hop would like to mention my experiences and influences to it from own and very early age and exposure as an American from a a young Americans perspective.
When I was growing up, I was too young for the grunge movement that was happening in America and so therefore my musical interest started you could say maybe from the tail end of that scene and quite possibly into a more explicit interest into underground Hip Hop, because at that time, it felt like an "untouched" by the mainstream underground music. It felt like a music for "me" not for any culture or mainstream audience and it transcended all of those ethos. I can remember hip hop in it's most underground forms and I can remember it being something that was different at that time. I can remember it being more art driven, even though it might not of been as recognized as such on the surface. I can remember when certain strains of hip hop could be labeled as their own genre such as horrorcore, gangsta rap, acid rap, ect... there was a lot creativity in this limited window of time and feel like a lot of it was lost with time. I encourage those whom are interested in hip hop to do their due diligence and will find for a short window of time that something of genius was brewing in a very limited amount of time, those who know what I'm talking about, explicitly midwest American will possibly understand what I'm saying. I think when it comes to specifically Detroit MI there was something that could be said...long before it descended into the juggalo retardation of today and I'm not cutting down ICP or any of the Detroit figure heads of that scene like Esham or anyone else, as they were all once part of that small window of time of underground phenomenon.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lk_oPNbLCtY&pp=ygURRXNoYW0gcm9jayBuIHJvbGw%3D
