WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

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WCN

I just released the full version of the Jim Haras Afterblast to the public:
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
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k.p.g

Great move, Oskar.  This one deserves to fully public.
Dead Door Unit
French Market Press
etc.

FreakAnimalFinland

There are many topics that could be commented. Just few weeks ago I was talking with friend and he said he might be "conservative". I told him I doubt it. You rarely hear things like "I am conservative, I have collection of tens of thousands of porn videos and magazines!". "I am conservative who runs label called Fus...." haha...

What Fusty described, seems from Finn perspective classic European liberalism. Rooted in classical liberalism, prioritizing free markets, limited government intervention, individual constitutional rights, and secular governance, etc.  Which is of course different what liberalism means in current American discussion. When most of the political language comes from USA these days, especially in the social media, it feels sometimes odd to follow.

Fusty was complimented for "everything goes" approach of noise, in context of putting out releases with left/right, different nationalities, and so on. I would assume this is more like standard if looking for labels with vast discographies and wider scope? It seems vastly later phenomena for label to set political or gender restrictions?

When you look almost any relevant labels, that's what it is. Old Europa Cafe, Cold Spring, Tesco, etc etc. You can of course debate who is exactly pure noise label and who has more broad experimental/industrial sound, but all these labels you will absolutely find left, right, women, men, diversity of nationalities, minority sexualities including also deviants and perverts, etc. It is just not a big deal, since labels belong to generation when this was automation? Therefore same applied also FA.

Not long ago, group of teenagers came to my store, asked "IS THIS A NAZI STORE?". I told if that's the type of records you want to buy, I'll have those for you, but there's also punk and hip hop if you prefer that. Girls gathered some courage and asked "isn't there some kind of conflict in selling both kinds of stuff?". I told my idea is to sell most of all weird, unusual and interesting records, and therefore there is no conflict at all. "If you put it like that...".

It is possible, that it's first time someone has told them something like that. Plus they most likely had no knowledge of anything sold in the store. Who is it, what is it, etc. It's very very odd programming in the brains of current underground culture, that naziphobia dominates even relatively intelligent minds. To point where it seemingly becomes only question revolving in their minds, but clearly phobia in the most accurate description of word.

The noise biz talk, I do wonder a bit if the hierarchy of "tapes always sell, LP sells some, CD doesn't sell" is kind of inaccurate? In terms of something being sold out instantly and something taking months or years to sell doesn't say much, unless you consider print run? Selling out fast 30, 50 or 100 tapes or selling 2-300 CD's over numbers of years? Latter might take time, but when its sold, its sold. I have almost never heard someone being able to sell more copies of tape than CD pressings. They can sell faster, but not bigger amounts. I would like to hear about noise tapes that sell 300 or more copies. I am sure there are many of those. At least there are several on Freak Animal, but generally, labels tend to do less.
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WCN

OUT NOW:
AFTERBLAST with Nick Forté of GREEN TEA

I caught up with Nick after his first appearance on the podcast, as he continues on his wild tear of uniquely colorful and psychedelic noise. We talked about his many active projects and his philosophies on noise, working with Hospital Productions, the forthcoming 2CD on WCN, his gear and post production approach, making music in so many eclectic styles, Dr. John Sarno and back pain, playing live and touring, recent favorite noise, and much more.

Video: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise/posts/afterblast-with-166298000
Audio: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise/posts/audio-version-of-166280439

Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

Haare

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 29, 2026, 08:45:52 AMIn late 90's MSBR was distributing GRUNT vhs and Freak Animal VHS live comp. He could get NTSC VHS made. In trade, he sent me PAL VHS masters of Noise Progressions 1 & 2 VHS. I didn't make many copies of those releases. I might even still have the covers for them, hah... but ain't dubbing VHS copies. Whole series of 1-6 is pretty rare. Seems like about dozen people at discogs has them, indicating not many copies circulating anymore. If someone has Freak Animal Festival VHS on NTSC format, its made by MSBR and already copy of a copy (of copy?)... Original master super-VHS exists, but I don't have super vhs player anymore.
 
I have the FA fest VHS & Noise progression vol.1. Willing to sell if someone's interested (can't ship to the US though.) Back when I still had my shop, I had these for sale and some teenagers were interested in them, but ended up buying "The Evolution of mutant species" VHS instead. I was pretty damn amazed to sell a noise VHS here.

FreakAnimalFinland

 "The Evolution of mutant species" VHS is amazing. We were just talking about it with some friends couple weeks ago. How demented it is to mix bands like Militia... and MINCH! haha..
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Haare

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 11, 2026, 03:26:23 PM"The Evolution of mutant species" VHS is amazing. We were just talking about it with some friends couple weeks ago. How demented it is to mix bands like Militia... and MINCH! haha..
The whole thing is/was on YouTube. The 7mon stuff on it was great too.

FreakAnimalFinland

What I forgot to say as comment for episode was also funny discussion about sad and jaded old men still thinking Grey Wolves is the unbeatable and nothing new good out there. I do agree, that it is a bit funny. It's not always GW, but one can pick other name too. I have some friends like that. They ask is there anything good out there "since 2005" or something, and you drop some names and you know they will NOT check them out. There is number of folks who just like to complain nothing good being there.

In other hand, perhaps more amusing is, that if you really put question like "would you buy 4xLP of that project, pay the money it costs?", "would you travel to other country to see them live?"... For bands like GW, Con-Dom, GO, Whitehouse and so on, people do. A lot of new bands are good, but they are not THAT good that even people who praise them, would bother to drive few hours to see them perform. At least it seems like this. I think there is many very good new names and artists I like and sometimes wonder how people who defend idea of good artists being out there, struggle to name anyone else buy couple friends they know. This is slightly revealing. If there really would be obvious new torch bearers, people wouldn't struggle to drop few names any moment someone asks. Even if its persons who don't really need and answer.
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WCN

WCN Podcast returns this Monday... stay tuned!!!
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

FreakAnimalFinland

QuoteGuest this episode is Joe Wang of Outdoor Horse Shrine, a relative newcomer to noise who has already burned his name into many harsh heads registers with his intense and focused harsh electronic sound, touring extensively with Heat Signature, Being, and his duo with Brad Griggs, Psychic Sense Organs. During our conversation, we tried to pin down why we chase certain sounds, and revisit some fundamental yet Enigmatic questions about the nature of noise, along with lots about his history and current activities, like his label Secret Buddy and much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly2ukVLqwrw


Good episode. It's kind of funny that there's questions like do you consider noise music. Artist replies that yes, he listens it a lot. Was it latest issue of UNTITLED where in one interview was discussed that why sound seems to be one of the few things that somehow has to come with pop music cultural notions. Like, being fun, enertaining or such. While movies, people can watch films are created anxiety, fear, horror, raise thoughts.. You may do sports that are demanding, painful, monotonic repeating task. You go to museums and galleries to look things you do not understand or "like", but you still go over and over again.  And while noise can be entertaining, joyful and "high fives bro" level enthusiasm, it can be something else. Listening album of Atrax Morgue and was it good. Sure, but how? Was it good like Slayer or Taylor Swift hit song? Maybe there was something other quality there that thinking "is noise music" is far less interesting question, when music itself is such a wide term.

Funnier it gets when Oskar goes into analysis of noise being like french cheese. Moldy smelly piece that really indicates something wrong, but...    Joe Wang replies with spicy food theory. Some guys just like spicy food, even if its unbearable for many.

More detailed noise talk where they go into how people get interested in specific sounds/approaches in noise. Hunting for something specific, liking something very specific. Example is one MSBR with strange honking synth sounds. It proceeds into talk how there is motifs in Wangs noise as opposed to pure chaos. Tonality, motifs within noise.
Also good moments discussing on "edgy" live noise. Edgy not as edgelord noise, but that there is something else than just dude creating sound, and the action and substance can be what makes noise have more impact on many listeners as opposed to nothing but abstraction.
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WCN

Beat me to it:

WCN Podcast is back with OUTDOOR HORSE SHRINE [Joe Wang]

My guest this episode is Joe Wang of Outdoor Horse Shrine, a relative newcomer to noise who has already burned his name into many harsh heads registers with his intense and focused harsh electronic sound, touring extensively with Heat Signature, Being, and his duo with Brad Griggs, Psychic Sense Organs. During our conversation, we tried to pin down why we chase certain sounds, and revisit some fundamental yet Enigmatic questions about the nature of noise, along with lots about his history and current activities, like his label Secret Buddy and much more.

I've also updated the Patreon with new benefits at each tier, and I'm giving gifts to all current supporters and those who sign up in the next 7 days - WCN sticker packs, enamel pin, and 90x150cm flag. New subscription benefits include monthly physical media giveaways, as well as an at-cost distro discount for the highest tier supporters.

https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise

Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

k.p.g

A really great episode here!  Still remember meeting Joe years back when my band was playing a gig with Heat Signature out around Dayton, trading tapes only shortly after.  It has been a real treat to see how mighty his noise has gotten since.

Plenty to think about in terms of the "annoying sound" discussion, as I am sure most people who have recorded noise have found some sort of a "negative earworm" that fascinates them to the point of asking "how far can I push this sound into my recording?"  To me, it feels almost like sport to do such challenges!  Some guys like Joe do this with such ease though, so I am surprised to hear that he sees it as torturing himself more than anything.

On the topic of having a predisposition towards noise vs. being conditioned to like it, I have to say I am fascinated by how deep this line of thought can run.  Joe and Oskar liken this people who can naturally handle spicier food than others, and I can totally see what they mean.  But then they bring up the work of MSBR as a reference point for challenging work, and I am like "hold the phone, that isn't right!  MSBR is one of the earliest noise artists I got into, every work is so satisfying!"  But it's like spicy food -- maybe I think it's normal to put ghost pepper sauce on my eggs in the morning while someone would put a drop on something as a challenge.  It's fun to think about when discussing the deeper listening of noise.

On the topic of MSBR too, Joe gave a fantastic recommendation with the Space Lab Green CDr on here.  I am shocked this one escaped my ears in my personal quest to hear as much Koji Tano as possible.
Dead Door Unit
French Market Press
etc.

FreakAnimalFinland

I think there is diversity to MSBR. I always considered most of his early works kind of full sound, almost rounded and not really "harsh". Not in terms of crunch, ripping harshness etc. But I think there are some CDR releases that are challenging for being wanky electronics. I recall some of "The Final Harsh Work" being as heavy and "reverb drenched" full sound as his infamous works, but then some CDR's were so irritating, they were barely listenable.
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k.p.g

You remember which CDrs were the annoying ones?  By my experience, those CDrs have been mostly comprised of live recordings.
Dead Door Unit
French Market Press
etc.