Quote from: PSYWARRIOR84 on October 23, 2024, 02:24:00 PMQuote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 22, 2024, 05:26:02 PMI was listening to science program which in a way was completely unrelated to noise, more related to sports and physical activity, where one of core ideas of healthiness of activity was defined by psychological idea of "flow", where something is not too easy, not too difficult, and also something you like to do and it tends to distance person from most nuisance that is around. Just getting into zone and doing something that captures you into sort of full involvement in activity.
QuoteFlow in positive psychology, also known colloquially as being in the zone or locked in, is the mental state in which a person performing some activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and enjoyment in the process of the activity.
It lead me to think about noise from such perspective. I have a bit of hesitation to consider noise as cathartic or as way to cope with negative emotions. I rather believe it could be also way of re-evaluation of things we have been told are negative emotions. Rather facing life as is, than resentful and bitter way, looking to escape the reality.
However, at the same time, many times of process of actual noise making, when you finally get into the zone - so to say - I would say it's quite unlike a lot of music creation. Transition from hurry, aim, composition, many other elements, that you simply are in flow of sound and feeling, and it is no more "jam" nor it is about searching for sound. It may be hard to put into words, what is the state of noise experience in moment when its full involvement and you simply realize its been hours that was spent in the flow. Regardless did you even push rec at any time. Just experience it as it was happening.
Most of noise I tend to play, is done first purely as experiment, as way to find something, but eventually realizing something indeed has happened. If considering this immersion wouldn't be merely "idea" to toy with, but some far more deeper phenomena in human mind, it makes me also think about purpose of FLOW in noise in general. As a listener, who seeks immersion and flow, rather than "good song"?
I was having the same thought this morning experimenting with my synthesizer. Trying to make something "musical" with a single synth can quickly become boring and mundane. However, hours can pass like minutes when exploring noisy textures, detuning oscillators, and balancing ADSR. I like the comparison to the flow of physical activity. I recently got back into skateboarding after having a severe injury, which is a difficult, uncomfortable, but completely gratifying activity. Similar to Noise, they are usually misunderstood, the possibilities are endless, and the process frees the conscious mind from all distracting thoughts and unnecessary mental wanderings/wondering.
Yes and yes. Much is talked on here about the experience of playing analog material whilst exploring the different sounds adn textures as if it were (and it is) one, overall cathartic or rather interesting experience. I agree that music should be more than a catharsis (however if it's not, it's fine for me too), but here is one thing that confirms what was written above.
Now, I'm one of those days in which everything just falls down and down, without room to breathe for your thoughts to stray from that endless murmuring and lameting which comes in hand with depression. I was, like, lying in bed writhing and wriggling (if you understand me here), hopeless. Just like in Saint Vitus' "H.A.A.G.", consumed by the void.
But then, out of no particular reason as I wasn't interested in music, but rather as a simple way to think about anything else, I turned on the amp. A simple Behringer reverb pedal and a voice modulator. Had no intention of even recording, but as soon as the noise came in, felt like an urge to do it. I simply improvised for some moments and ended up recording 2 songs from the session. And after that, my depression was gone. And I mean it, like if I'd have taken medicine or something, it thus vanished. Maybe a psychoanalytic case of Sublimation, in which an instinct is internally transfigured into a drive which allows the negative energy to flow off consciousness, and achieve some kind of satisfaction which is profoundly impacting.
Time flies while messing with the gears. My music isn't even very good, but the flaws kind make room for something special here. Nonetheless, the neverending possibility aspect, all the while made from simple material, makes room for true satisfaction regardless of how bad or good your music might turn to be; and that is even so that while producing music I don't feel as if what I'm doing is not going to turn out as good as I wished it to be, but get that feeling when listening to the material recorded. "If considering this immersion wouldn't be merely "idea" to toy with, but some far more deeper phenomena in human mind, it makes me also think about purpose of FLOW in noise in general. As a listener, who seeks immersion and flow, rather than "good song"?" - this is the FLOW of NOISE. Pedals are angelic creatures.
