NOISE RELATED RANDOM TALK TOPIC

[PSYWARRIOR84]

I've heard many people talk about the driving force to participate in music or art is ultimately to release emotions but I don't think that is really true although it may seem that way. This world is based on creation, if we depress those natural creative gifts, we become depressed. The emotions are the subconscious hunger pangs for creation; catharsis doesn't seem natural.

I'd like to hear what you came up with because I am looking for folks to work with. I've been pushing myself to create with more authenticity and originality lately. I like the idea of flaws and getting past trying to make "good" songs. Much of noise has no involvement with songs anyways, but that is refreshing because familiarity and homogeneity are trappings that stifle authentic creation. Which is why music seems dead and lifeless, whereas Noise seems like a young sapling in an empty forest.

Thank you for the feedback and interest, it means a lot to me. I kind of understand what you're saying. Catharsis as secondary to the Drive to creation, that is true. However, the mere pleasure from playing (un)music is enough to be 'cathartic', understood simply as a means of releasing that unconscious drive towards creation.
There was more music produced, but I ended up recording two. One of based loosely on Deathpile's "THIS IS MY WORLD. A WORLD INSIDE MY HEAD." line off You Will Never Know, and is called "My World (Your Death)". One of the best things in improvising is that I loose the lyrics after performing them due to the musical unintelligibility it gave to them, but lines such as "SAY IT.. SAY IT TO MY FACE" and "YOU HAVE YOUR WORLD, AND I HAVE MINE" can be listened to. Not totally serious, but in no way a mere joke. The other is called "Paz pra quem? (Pra Ninguém!)" and has portuguese lyrics. Now there's something special here: the pedal-radio interference. I was able to catch a radio dialougue concerning Brazil's political affairs and it ended up sounding like a PE-ish sample, heh.
Now there's something special about the first one in terms of handling the gear and using 'errors': the voice modulator that I have keeps on producing a sound while not being used vocally, and by that, being connected to the mix table on a level of sound which didn't permit its full sonic expression, it kept on making noises that resemble a metal-junk orchestra, as I was hitting something arythmically deliberately during the music; but it was nothing like that and was totally unpredicted.

That is a very interesting technique, it sounded like total junk metal destruction to me. I am impressed with the vocal delivery, it begins very powerful and continues to intensify and change as the track progresses. Although you mentioned the lyrics were a mere joke, I like the "you have your world, I have mine" message because I've heard many people say all humans are connected and if that is true, it must also be true that you can disconnect; which I've done with 99.999% of people. Keep up the good work, I look forward to hearing more.

[Kaaoskultti]

I've heard many people talk about the driving force to participate in music or art is ultimately to release emotions but I don't think that is really true although it may seem that way. This world is based on creation, if we depress those natural creative gifts, we become depressed. The emotions are the subconscious hunger pangs for creation; catharsis doesn't seem natural.

I'd like to hear what you came up with because I am looking for folks to work with. I've been pushing myself to create with more authenticity and originality lately. I like the idea of flaws and getting past trying to make "good" songs. Much of noise has no involvement with songs anyways, but that is refreshing because familiarity and homogeneity are trappings that stifle authentic creation. Which is why music seems dead and lifeless, whereas Noise seems like a young sapling in an empty forest.

Thank you for the feedback and interest, it means a lot to me. I kind of understand what you're saying. Catharsis as secondary to the Drive to creation, that is true. However, the mere pleasure from playing (un)music is enough to be 'cathartic', understood simply as a means of releasing that unconscious drive towards creation.
There was more music produced, but I ended up recording two. One of based loosely on Deathpile's "THIS IS MY WORLD. A WORLD INSIDE MY HEAD." line off You Will Never Know, and is called "My World (Your Death)". One of the best things in improvising is that I loose the lyrics after performing them due to the musical unintelligibility it gave to them, but lines such as "SAY IT.. SAY IT TO MY FACE" and "YOU HAVE YOUR WORLD, AND I HAVE MINE" can be listened to. Not totally serious, but in no way a mere joke. The other is called "Paz pra quem? (Pra Ninguém!)" and has portuguese lyrics. Now there's something special here: the pedal-radio interference. I was able to catch a radio dialougue concerning Brazil's political affairs and it ended up sounding like a PE-ish sample, heh.
Now there's something special about the first one in terms of handling the gear and using 'errors': the voice modulator that I have keeps on producing a sound while not being used vocally, and by that, being connected to the mix table on a level of sound which didn't permit its full sonic expression, it kept on making noises that resemble a metal-junk orchestra, as I was hitting something arythmically deliberately during the music; but it was nothing like that and was totally unpredicted.

That is a very interesting technique, it sounded like total junk metal destruction to me. I am impressed with the vocal delivery, it begins very powerful and continues to intensify and change as the track progresses. Although you mentioned the lyrics were a mere joke, I like the "you have your world, I have mine" message because I've heard many people say all humans are connected and if that is true, it must also be true that you can disconnect; which I've done with 99.999% of people. Keep up the good work, I look forward to hearing more.

Oh, thank you for the feedback! I do have ideas on my mind to be further explored when I have the time, aswell as the intention of releasing some copies of my music. I don't have the resources right now, but furthermore it's something I look forward to. And yes, that vocal delivery was insane, it even impressed me afterwards to the point it made me grin - must have been really pissed off that day, heh.

I do not mean that comparison would be about trying to be like it, but one could say that as much as people seemingly worship 80's and 90's sound, it is surprising how much "20??" sound" is being used. Tinny, digitally glitchy highs and flatness caused by volume war where you try to be as loud as the rest, while actually personal preference may be exactly opposite? Sometimes it can be healthy to remind oneself that despite a lot of people ruin their stuff, you don't have to. You can accept it sounds quieter, more lo-fi, unless listener cranks the volume up. This is one reason many of my own work, I prefer not to publish it online. It is meant for stereo system, consciously picked CD into player, adjusting volume to be what is needed. Not to be played within online streams, in middle of contemporary 0dB digital noise blasting.

I believe loudness and quietness both have a place in "loud" music. Of course, most people are not Bennett trying to push the limits of sound beyond everything else, so I guess it mostly depends on the balance one is set out to achieve. I could be wrong, but I guess one of the things that define contemporany PE acts which intend to have some foot on the classics whilst still sounding fresh is mixage of metaljunk with traditional elements of Noise (think Sick Seed, Menacing '84). Not just metaljunk, but some sort of handling of it that is clearly recognizable although not easily describable. Not talking about The New Blockaders style of creating massive layers of them, but something more controlled. Not even rhythmically oriented, but one gets the idea.

This is my strategy too.  It gets especially fun when you have archives going back some years, and you forget how you even made some of it!

Lyrically, I improvise always, so there's phrases and phrases in what I've produced which I have not a idea on what I was talking about, haha.