Reissues

[KMusselman]

I don't know about everyone else, but I am really getting tired of all the re-released material these days.  I have invested a lot of time and money over the last thirteen years building up my cherished collection only to find the same material re-released with better sound quality and that one bonus track.

With that said, what are your opinions of reissues.  Of course I would like to have the better sounding copy with the bonus material, but it's getting so fucking expensive trying to keep up!  Maybe I should just enjoy what I have while others catch up?

[MT]

I have no problem with reissues, especially Industrial Recollections has done so great reissues. I would invest on the original tapes or whatever, but they are expensive. Reissues are easy way to get classic material with reasonable price. If I had the money, I would get everything as originals. I do hunt down the ones I really really want as original tape/cd/lp, but just can't afford everything.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I don't know if much of noise get re-issued with bonus tracks? I think it is very few of them.

I think good stuff being done on CD, especially tapes, that might have been mere 50-100 copies or such available for people decade ago (or more!) is very healthy. I generally don't buy stuff I don't need, so I can happily leave unnecessary re-issues for people who need them and live with the originals.

I would have more problem with re-issues what lack some of original material, but been there done that. Some lessons learned, hah...

[Goat93]

I Like Re-Releases since it makes Sense for it. All Industrial Recollection CDs are Awesome, Fucking Glad that they are avaible.
Re-issues Like the Metal Music Overflood i don't like too much. But in the End, there is a Market for it and its better Rereleased as some Insane Ebay Prices. What i won't understand when the re Issue is lots Bader and Uglier than the Original. Won't get in My mind. And these New Interpretation Kind like Gorgoroth, Burzum ect..in my Eyes little bit useless after all...

Edit:

The Newest TG/PTV Re Issues are also not my Cup of Tea or these Premature Ejaculation Stuff on CDR

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Of course I missed out on items over the years and was glad to see a reissue of something I missed.  I guess the problem I have is with reissued material that is not the same as the original.  The bonus material and the better sound quality takes value away from the original.  It almost makes the original inferior.  Does that make sense?

You have some concrete examples to give from noise?

But yeah, I don't like too much "re-master" re-issues or changed artworks etc. My goal as maker of re-issues, is to keep them same. Not re-vision, not re-make, but just have recording available on CD as accurately as-it-was.

All Whitehouse CD's are properly re-issued. All the LP's were also more "professional" looking than the old originals. I don't think they did harmed owning the original in any way? I doubt many will cry over Genocide Organ 1st LP with remastered sound + two bonus tracks IF they actually hold original LP in their shelves? etc..

[Ernpe]

Personally I really don't mind bonus tracks. Like the recent Grunt/Taint reissue. I have the lp and vinyl is the format of my choice, so I'd anyhow listen mainly to the vinyl album. No need for the cd, despite the one track I don't have.

On most of the reissue cd's I have (non-noise) there is some bonus material, which I usually just skip over. Apart from some rare compilation tracks or b-sides, bonus material is hardly worth playing on its own right.

Vinyls I wish to be as close to the original as possible. New, 'more like it was meant to be' mixes or cover arts..nah. There are some rock-albums I would like to see a less 80s mix, though. On cd, mere 1:1 reissue of tape/lp often looks cheap, and indeed they are cheap to produce. Eg. the Zero Cabal compilations look really cheap on cd, as the tape art hardly transfers to a cd-size. But on the other hand, unless we are talking a real classic with certain effect, there is little to add. I don't think every reissue needs liner notes either.

[Brad]

In general I think reissues are great, and I buy them to have albums I otherwise wouldn't have a chance of owning.  The only industrial reissues lately that annoyed me were the TG ones.  Bonus tracks are CD only, but full liner notes are vinyl only?  That's just evil.

[Steve]

I agree with Brad and a few others that re-issues are great, there have been some great re-issues on Vinyl-On-Demand and Harbinger Sound. Both labels have unearthed some classics..
No too certain about the recent TG re-issues, their back catalogue has been trawled over so many times now it all seems worthless.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

While I can perhaps see the point of there, in some cases, being an overload in reissues I'd much rather have classics as well as overlooked gems made available again than a new album of lame shit from a bunch of old cunts jumping the reunion bandwagon.

[ironfistofthesun]

Without really noticing I seem to have been buying quite a lot of re-issues of late!

The TG one's were very good and they did a great job with the mastering and the whole package! And it is nice to have everything on lp as some of my TG stuff is on cd( the mute grey area re-issues in the 90's)

DIJ nada...well one of my all time albums so I had to get this..not much in the way of extra's on my version ...but i know Dougy p released about 4 versions with different amounts of extras...only rich goth kids need apply

dome box set..again had the grey area cd re-issue decades back. Boxset is great...5lp's...re-mastered.. posters..inserts...match box full of black wedding confetti (??)

I think if something is going to re-issued..then it should be a great item and deliver something extra that the original didn't have, but without fucking with the music too much!!!.
I can see more "vinyl" re-issues in 2012 of classic industrial. I think NWW / C93 are all digging up their old masters...and whenever the coil estate gets into the right hands it wouldn't surprise me to see all their back catalogue avaliable again.

We spit on their graves and awake are due very soon and i will look forward to seeing what they turn out like.

[ConcreteMascara]

I think that box sets at reasonable prices can also be a great way to do re-issues. For example:

Incapacitants - Pariah Tapes (Freak Animal)
Incapacitants - Box is Stupid (Pica Disk)

I'd probably never pick up more than handful of these discs if released separately but as boxed sets, especially with nice linear notes/packaging it's totally worth it. It also helped I got a great price on Box is Stupid :P

And as others have said, the Industrial Recollections re-issues are always welcome.

[GEWALTMONOPOL]

The TG one's were very good and they did a great job with the mastering and the whole package! And it is nice to have everything on lp as some of my TG stuff is on cd( the mute grey area re-issues in the 90's)

I can see more "vinyl" re-issues in 2012 of classic industrial. I think NWW / C93 are all digging up their old masters...and whenever the coil estate gets into the right hands it wouldn't surprise me to see all their back catalogue avaliable again.

All that is in my realm of "is it really necessary?". For cashing in on the old catalogue to collectors yes, but musically??? The CD's released by the Grey Area weren't enough? To me they certainly are.

Haha, DiJ. How many reissues does one need from that twat? He's proving himself even more embarrassing than the "piggies" he's cried about for the last 15 years where milking his back catalogue is concerned.

[ironfistofthesun]

My 20 jazz funk greats was fucking battered. Had the insert poster on my wall for years as a kid..now lost. So i had to get it again.
Also my tastes are for vinyl, so where i can i buy/re buy on lp.

[ironfistofthesun]

http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html

some familiar names on the list...maybe re-issues are the good guys (as opposed to paying overblown discogs/ebay prices

[acsenger]

I think that box sets at reasonable prices can also be a great way to do re-issues. I'd probably never pick up more than handful of these discs if released separately but as boxed sets, especially with nice linear notes/packaging it's totally worth it.

That's how I see it too. I can understand that a collector who has original tapes or vinyl from the 80s, for example, is not happy that some of this stuff is being re-released, often with extra material/liner notes/deluxe packaging and for a decent price, but on the other hand there are probably more people who don't have this stuff in the first place and don't have the money (or wouldn't want to anyway) to buy the originals. And I guess the original release will always be worth more than the re-release, when it comes to price tags.

I must admit I'm a sucker for nicely put together box sets. The already mentioned Box is Stupid by Incapacitants is a top notch job (and so are the other boxes on Pica, by Kevin Drumm and Government Alpha). The Controlled Bleeding and Colin Potter boxes on Ultra Mail Prod are nice too. The Early Works C.C.C.C. box comes to mind too. And the Merzbox. The list could go on... and of course non-boxed reissues are nice too, like the Hijokaidan reissues on Alchemy or the classic M.B. albums on Ees't.