Punk/Hardcore

[ghoulson]

halthan: Ah... that make sense. Yeah, I thought it was Jonsson as well but didn't really trust the memory of Leif.

Just stumbled into this clip from japanese movie with Sakevi beating up some rastafari.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0YS9WcAMtc

[hsv]

their singer turned to die hard antinazi.

It's probably shorter way from nazi to anti-nazi than from regular joe to either way... ? But also whatever the info circulated around is always potential of being result of daily smear campaign activity surrounding the scene full of back stabbing.  I guess people are very interested to hear "who dropped out" and who is truer than the others. Also plenty of Jocke Carlsson images of him posing with non-white guys circulating proving how he has changed his ways.

For anyone who's interested... Nitton who sang for Midgårds Söner dropped out of the NS movement, wrote a book called "Med hatet som drivkraft" ("With hate as driving force") about his journey from troubled kid, punk and football hooligan to nazi and skinhead. I read it several times when I was younger, mostly cause it contained a lot of exciting stuff about booze, street fights and general punk life. Apparently he also started working for an organization called Exit which is supposed to help people who want to drop out of the NS movement. Last but not least he did a CD with his new band STHLM United:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqPKXu6H2U
It's pretty worthless IMO. No idea what he does today, this info is all a few years old.

I rarely listen to oi!, RAC or that kind of stuff but I usually enjoy it more when it's mixed with a heavy pop or rock'n'roll influence, example:
Gatans lag - Arbetarliv
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7c_r6U4t4w

Also, this documentary on Anti-Cimex features at least one animation/slide show with a lot of famous old punk records, I don't remember seeing RJF but it's possible it's in there somewhere. Only in Swedish unfortunately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4zUfGpFBOI

[heretogo]

Also do any of you Finns know any sort of back story on The Silver?! Totally inept child damaging sounds.

This is basically copied & edited & translated from Finnish forum discussion:

"Couple of 13-year old little dudes from Hamina. Two 7"'s released on a sub-label (Black Label Series) of big Finnish label Johanna. A c-30 tape seems to also exist.  Band was discovered and signed on the label by Gösta Sundqvist of Leevi and the Leavings fame (very popular in Finland). Nobody ever saw them or knew who they were. Forum sleuths suspect Harri Englund to be a member, Englund is now an anthropologist working at University of Cambridge and will not answer e-mails with questions about The Silver."

[tiny_tove]

or Jumalan Ruoska 7"s on turntable, which belong to perhaps worst era of finn punk (late 80's), they still have at least some spirit, what contemporary bands were lacking.

The Wrongdoers "Helsinki" 12"mLP
featuring the media fame Renne (X-Factor, some reality tv shows, radio DJ, etc) in vocals. While drummer is known from Mistreat and wasn't guitarist from Brutal Skins, so obviously tabloids made big deal out of the band. Melodic oi with "no politics only tradition" type of approach. Themes are usual fight, pride, regional romatics. Since music is so melodic and well & tightly executed, it's shame vocals are not melodic, but just gruffy shouting. This Means War records has at least two 12"s done last year, but never heard Offensive Weapon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1amXeGOJ8Y
sound of sample is pretty crappy. Vinyl sounds much better.

I guess the warm weathers, sun shine, total summer brings one to mood to blast some "party music", so turntable has been on punk rotation almost exclusively for some time.

these are absolutely excellent. never heard of... there is some mistreat feel in the background.
I do not agree on vocals. these are just fine for me. who did release them? I must have them...
guitars especially are just perfect. Too bad they are singing in English and not Finnish.

STHLM United sounds nice as well, but definitely less exciting than his past experience.

Exit is rehab for exnazis, like Adam's Apple ehheh

[tiny_tove]

I so want to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnuQrRn5ED4&feature=related

saw them live some years ago, music was not my cup of tea, but the gig was very intense...

talking abouth sleazy oi/punk, one of my all time favers (with links to Finland since they were close friends of Clamydia)
:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xadtfq2bNJ0

[FreakAnimalFinland]

Wrongdoers LP is released by label called This Means War and CD by.. was it Pure Impact? I guess checking out some Oi distributors will help, but being ltd 300, LP might be something one needs to find now, not later on...

I've been thinking of visiting possibly two related festivals this summer. Possibly Nordic Thunder, 2 days RAC fest with Kraftschlag, Civic Duty, etc..  and possibly Puntala with Poison Idea, Doom, Selfish etc..  We'll see how schedule goes.

[tiny_tove]

Wrongdoers LP is released by label called This Means War and CD by.. was it Pure Impact? I guess checking out some Oi distributors will help, but being ltd 300, LP might be something one needs to find now, not later on...

will check with Peter then. I must have them!!! thanks.

[ghoulson]

thanks for the link, Henrik! checking it now to see if this is the one... hard to believe it could be another film featuring anticimex.
great documentary on the swedish punk scene. my interest in people like nitton is zero... probably non-swedes find it more exotic.

[tiny_tove]

poison idea are playing here as well. I saw them live with original line up back in the days.... a real hammer.

[D. Davis]

Thanks heretogo for The Silver knowledge gain! Never knew about a cassette and still haven't heard the second single. Bootleg of that "Do You Wanna Dance" single is probably still floating around though...

[youngnosh]

Does anybody know who this engraving/woodcut on this Void artwork is by?

[Zeno Marx]

I'm not normally into meaty, jockish hardcore, but when I am, it can suck to try to get my fix.  There isn't a lot out there that doesn't cross one line or another where I have complete disinterest.

New Lows - Harvest of the Carcass - this is caveman brutality done Boston style; everything they've done is top shelf; crushing vitality and power that avoids the cliches.
New Lows - s/t + demo
New Lows - Paincave Sessions Vol.1
New Lows - Live on WERS
Haymaker - s/t album - more caveman brutality and fierce power.
Haymaker - Fuck America EP
Haymaker/Oxbaker EP

The Corpse - Retrospektywa 1985-1995 - excellent, under the radar of most, crossover/thrash from Poland.
Kort Prosess - all - thick, yet melodic, Norwegian HC carrying on a rich tradition - bands like this fed the His Hero is Gone/Tragedy animal.
VA Stockholms Mangel
Phantasm - demo (post-Hirax)
Lethal Aggression - From the Cunt demo
Rampage - Limit of Destruction - good hardcore that got my attention by way of being compared to Straight Ahead - not as good as I'd hoped, but good nonetheless.

[HONOR_IS_KING!]

I'm not normally into meaty, jockish hardcore, but when I am, it can suck to try to get my fix.  There isn't a lot out there that doesn't cross one line or another where I have complete disinterest.

New Lows - Harvest of the Carcass - this is caveman brutality done Boston style; everything they've done is top shelf; crushing vitality and power that avoids the cliches.
New Lows - s/t + demo
New Lows - Paincave Sessions Vol.1
New Lows - Live on WERS

Amazing. You missed my big rant on how awesome New Lows is earlier in the thread. Good shit.

[RyanWreck]

I've been listening to a lot of Hardcore Punk lately. Mainly 90's stuff as I mentioned before, that was the decade I was a teenager in so it was the most important to me and still is. Favorite albums from the Hardcore side of things...

Straight Faced - "Conditioned"
59 Times The Pain - "Twenty Percent of My Hand"
D.I. - "State of Shock"
Rich Kids On LSD - "Riches to Rags" (Nardcore!)
88 Fingers Louie - "Back On The Streets"
Fury 66 - "For Lack of A Better Word"
98 Mute - "After The Fall"
Vision - "Watching The World Burn"
Das Klown - "Holy Crap!"
Screw 32 - "Under The Influence of Bad People"
D.F.L. - "Dead Fucking Last"


And as far as the Punk stuff is concerned I listened, and still listen to, bands like 30footFall, SNFU, Guttermouth, The Vandals, Good Riddance, Jughead's Revenge, Falling Sickness, Drain Bramaged, BigWig, etc. I could go on forever. Basically Fearless Records, Hopeless, Nitro Records, Kung Fu Records type material that some refer to as either Melodic Hardcore or Skate Punk. I doubt there are many others on these forums who have the same taste.

[Zeno Marx]

Amazing. You missed my big rant on how awesome New Lows is earlier in the thread. Good shit.

Oh, I didn't miss it.  It was partly the reason I was laughing at this thread and where it was probably headed.  I thought both sides of that exchange were absurd.