Extreme live performances

Started by Dr Alex, March 21, 2014, 10:36:23 PM

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martialgodmask

Quote from: blackoperations on March 24, 2014, 07:00:16 AM
Quote from: martialgodmask on March 22, 2014, 04:29:57 PM
I'm sure Gillham (BLACKOPERATIONS?) mentioned on a forum once that someone might have the footage but I'd've thought it would've surfaced long before now if it was out there. Perhaps he could shed some light whenever he passes through here.

no, unfortunately, there's no video footage (or audio either) of that hanatarash backhoe gig that i know of. maybe you are mixing up me possibly saying there must be video footage of the complete live 88 set or something? see clip on youtube. i guess alchemy were going to release it at some point but never did.

the full set of those backhoe gig pictures only surfaced a few years ago. only 2 or 3 of them had ever been seen before after appearing with hanatarash articles in japanese mags like sakevi's P.O.W, etc. gin satoh (who took them) published a book of his live band photos called 'tokyo rockers 1978-1986' in 2006 which also had some of them in.

Possibly, I've been on a couple of the same forums as you for a few years so there's every chance I've read something you've said and am making it fit now ha! Thanks for the clarification though.

Dr Alex

Quote from: F_c_O on March 24, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
http://www.discogs.com/Death-Squad-Intent/release/745439

ntcs version of the 'intent' vhs is on sale on discogs, which includes the video of the 'gun show'.

My VHS player is dead for years, also I don't have tv... Somebody should re-release it on dvd. Anyway, I will buy that VHS for a collection when I get some money. Thank you for letting me know for it.


HongKongGoolagong

Back when Peter Sotos was sulking at Whitehouse he wrote some very dismissive and funny stuff about how the entire attitude of 'extreme power electronics' could be traced back to the Grand Guignol shock rock of Alice Cooper's theatrical 1970s stage shows. Here's a clip from just a few years ago which is quite amusing - imagine doing this stuff for forty years, and apparently it's his daughter playing the battered wife here -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A19hAu_qPb8


andy vomit

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 24, 2014, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on March 24, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
http://www.discogs.com/Death-Squad-Intent/release/745439

ntcs version of the 'intent' vhs is on sale on discogs, which includes the video of the 'gun show'.

You can't really see anything in the video. I use to have it & from what I remember, he's sitting at a table with a lamp. He does something, knocks the lamp over, &
it goes dark so you can't see much other than, maybe, people moving away. I want to say he loads the handgun or does something with a syringe?  I'm surprised the performance isn't on youtube.

if i remember correctly he sits at the desk, shoots up, loads the gun and then walks out of frame into the audience.  you're right though, after he moves away from the desk you can't really see anything but the occasional person running for their life.  good performance, though.  i just wish there was either more than one camera, or that the one camera they had wasn't a static shot. 
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Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 25, 2014, 02:15:45 PMthe entire attitude of 'extreme power electronics' could be traced back to the Grand Guignol shock rock of Alice Cooper's theatrical 1970s stage shows.

There's something to be said for Power Electronics embracing obvious theatricality. In a genre where most of the projects have, at most, two people, it's difficult to get a full-on stage show like that, but it would be very interesting to see it attempted.

Quote from: Salamanauhat on March 23, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
"Attacking the audience" is generally one of the lamest things around.

Depends on the context. At a Finnish PE gig, probably. But I've found that people can and do react quite shockingly to even reports of physical attacks at gigs. As I think I've mentioned before, the most typical tropes are often re-used simply because they work.
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tiny_tove

Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 26, 2014, 02:53:00 AM


There's something to be said for Power Electronics embracing obvious theatricality. In a genre where most of the projects have, at most, two people, it's difficult to get a full-on stage show like that, but it would be very interesting to see it attempted.



tried in the past, having figurants on stage doing semi static human sculptures... worked the first two times, but then sort of got bored about it and went back to the in your stage approach.
a good video was enough... but I really enjoyed when i saw more complex performances:
ccc cnc ncn, laibach, aske, GO, ecc they were all amazing...
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haven't witnessed anything extreme at a show of any kind personally...

too bad the EUGENICS COUNCIL + VIODRE tour was a year or two before my introduction to the Viodre crew... from what i was told there was lots of power tools amongst an array of other dangerous objects, and at the hands of equally dangerous personalities... a fellow in texas had a hand cut in half when he got to close to Vibg's circular saw... at a new york show featuring THE HATERS he supposodly jumped several stories off of a rooftop... there are a lot of good stories from that time period, though its really not my place to recount details that are not even my own.

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jesusfaggotchrist

Doesn't IRM have graphic performances?

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Quote from: Salamanauhat on March 23, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
"Attacking the audience" is generally one of the lamest things around.

when i was doing live shows "Attacking the audience" was more of fun then anything else. when you know the whole crowd how can you really "attack" them.& honestly during the sets i would prefer if the crowd was attacking me more then me attacking them.it happened at dead audio,people were hitting me from all over and i couldnt see anything.
i started doing it out of being bored because EVERYONE standing behind a table and looking down.

Scat-O-Logy

Quote from: jesusfaggotchrist on March 26, 2014, 05:24:18 PM
Doesn't IRM have graphic performances?
I have seen some pics where Martin cuts himself on stage plus he has also done some solo performances with intestines etc.

F_c_O

Just finished watching the Death Squad - Intent vhs. The Intent (gun show) was filmed pretty much directly from back of the audience, giving quite good view on the stage. According to the insert the filming of the event wasn't planned and this probably contributed to the fact that it was filmed only on one camera and you can't really see what happens in audience (also, the camera man didnt have a clue what was going to happen during the show). The camera itself was brought for some other act of the evening. The gig itself consist of two backing videos playing in dark for some time after which m9 puts on the desk lamp and proceeds to inject himself with something. After that he cuts himself, loads the gun and sits there and suddenly pushes the table down and walks into the audience with the gun. After this point one cannot make out what actually happens in the audience. Some people leave but certainly doesnt run away, more like walk silently (probably didnt want to make sudden moves around a guy with a loaded gun who might also be high on drugs!). After a while M9 leaves the stage, the backing films end and people clap. The end.

Despite the fact that viewer can't see what happens in audience, I enjoyed this video greatly.

The vhs also contains what discogs bills as last performance of Death Squad but it seems to be only the backing video for the event. Without going in deeper details, its awesome.

The package came with lots of flyers/inserts and couple of emails about the intent show, one calling it going way over the top and the kind of thing that ruins noise/performance art in usa. Might type them to here sometime as they are quite funny reading.

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Never heard enough DEATH SQUAD in the 90s, etc. so I went on a DEATH SQUAD tear last year grabbing a pile of the reissue CDs from FA.  Amazing amazing concentrated material.  Was talking about my admiration for DEATH SQUAD in Milwaukee with Vertonen... when i got home he promptly sent me a pile of rare DEATH SQUAD releases he had lying around collecting dust including the VHS tape package.  Yes - the VHS tape is well worth the watch.  Powerful static presentation.