Attacks on paris 13/14.11.2015

Started by F_c_O, November 14, 2015, 01:49:02 AM

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Zodiac

Quote from: tiny_tove on November 24, 2015, 11:01:37 PM
Quote from: Theodore on November 24, 2015, 07:09:28 PM
Not only fails to underline who fed + bred ISIS but reading that graphic someone would believe the whole world is fighting against ISIS ! Ridiculous.

totally agree
In the past year Turkey established several hospitals in Isis zone to cure Daesh militants who were slaughtering Kurds.
One of these hospitals is apparently run (or at least include her involvement) of Erdoğan's daughter.



The whole refugee crisis that Europe´s pathetic politicians try to solve, plays into Erdogan´s hand. It is like a joker for him. I am quite sure he will
get away with his hidden internal war against the legal pro-kurdish party as well as with his hidden support for IS. Seems he knows well, how the
political game is played.
Remember, remember... december.

Bloated Slutbag

A "mosaic chart" of Middle Eastern relationships

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2014/09/daily-chart-11

As the attached commentary notes, one collection of notables seems to have been sucking the right dick.

...I'll confess I do kinda dig all the intrigue/speculation. Helps in plotting my next move in the game whilst I sit upon the throne.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

F_c_O

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/24/severe-blow-al-qaeda-suicide-bomber-takes-out-leadership-key-isis-brigade/?intcmp=hpbt3

enemy of my enem. . .actually, i dont even know anymore. Seeing how this is fox news, take it with huge grain of salt though.


tiny_tove

very interesting article and comments as well.
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Zodiac

only partly related and somehow connected to "TRUE CRIMES" as well, but anyway:

Teenage ISIS 'poster girl' who travelled to Syria 'beaten to death after trying to escape Raqqa'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teenage-isis-poster-girl-who-6891521#rlabs=2%20rt$category%20p$6
Remember, remember... december.

Andrew McIntosh

QuoteWe will serve Allah – and we will die for him

Nice to see young people achieving their dreams.
Shikata ga nai.

Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: F_c_O on November 25, 2015, 01:09:04 PM
more related reading https://undercoverinfo.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/isis-survives-largely-because-turkey-allows-it-to-the-evidence/

Quoteallied with Iran and benefit from US support

Quotesucking the right dick


Quote from: Staalwaart on November 25, 2015, 04:50:07 PM
somehow connected to "TRUE CRIMES"

Different genre, maybe? I'd have thought the crime to be "true" only when the veracity that one has taken place cannot be challenged- say, by the (spokespersons of the) will of Allah.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

Bob

Russia and China should have allowed the US to bomb Assad two and a half years ago when they wanted to and the UK government should have supported that. That in itself would have preempt the whole IS movement even if still been a dangerous situation. Russia has defended Assad since they beginning. I guess it is fair to say that Syria is the victim of outside interests to a certain extent but even still if it was created into a more religiously conservative state that would be the advantage to Turkey and S.A or maybe even Israel ? I don't see they problem religion was probably the only glue that stick a post Assad Syria back together. It is difficult to see where it all can go from here it is a shame action was not even taken earlier why does the UN or NATO even exist then if a conflict like the Syrian is allowed to carry on ?   

Bloated Slutbag

Here's a novelty for me- commenting in this thread in a state of relative sobriety...

I confess that I'm a bit confused by the way the name ISIS gets tossed around. Here ISIS is IS, there al-Qaeda, and still elsewhere al-Nusra. In one article they are shorthand for the same thing, in a linked article "bitter enemies". And so on. Like our pal al-Jihadi runs around swapping turbans, different team for every other day of the week?
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag


Andrew McIntosh

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/26/the-scariest-thing-about-islamic-state-its-kindler-gentler-side/

QuoteIn many ways, the group serves as a functioning government in the areas it controls, offering services once provided by the Syrian and Iraqi regimes. It collects taxes, picks up trash, runs schools, issues marriage licenses, provides security, and even employs former government bureaucrats to make sure everything runs smoothly. In Syria's Deir ez-Zor province, Islamic State has issued regulations to protect natural resources and the environment, suggesting that the group is settled in for the long run. Some Syrian citizens under Islamic State control claim that the group's efforts have helped return some sense of normalcy to their lives, a welcome reprieve from the grueling civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
Shikata ga nai.

l.b.

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 27, 2015, 09:58:52 AM
Here ISIS is IS, there al-Qaeda, and still elsewhere al-Nusra.

Islamic State is definitely 'against' al-Qaeda and Nusra Front, at least in the same way schismatic leftist movements are also 'against' each other. Sometimes they get conflated because a) Islamic State used to be Al-Qaeda in Iraq and b) Nusra Front does some weird things sometimes. Officially Nusra are a branch of al-Qaeda and swear allegiance to Ayman Zawahiri (who in turn swears allegiance to Mullah Mohamad Omar, the leader of the Taliban). "On the ground" Nusra is a sort of waypoint between the so-called 'moderate rebels' and serious islamist factions, frequently gaining or losing members depending on where air strikes are landing that month.

Theodore

Aha, so that's why they don't attack them. They haven't decided what's enemy's name yet. Let's debate it. For a year or two.
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