GENOCIDE ORGAN

Started by GEWALTMONOPOL, March 22, 2011, 02:32:31 PM

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Minus1

CD1 of Death Zones:

Oh fuck. Tr*mp? 😂

You know...this is fucking good! I can already see why it doesn't exactly top many (any?) GO lists, but I really admire the flow...the mood this creates. I'm happy! (Well...maybe a bit sad as I devour the content here.) The sounds / production is top notch.

CD2 tonight...which is almost like a different album?

Minus1

#391
CD2 of Death Zones:

Perhaps my memory of CD1 details has already faded but I'm not feeling a big change / departure from the sound / feel of that CD here.

Oh I love the guy with his Tr*mp opinion! 😂

This continues in a rather subdued way, but I think it's excellent. I just love how it is sequenced.

Maybe CD2 should be first, then CD1? 🤷🏼�♂️

I think the sounds are always interesting and compelling.

Fuck. I'm thrilled with this. I just wish it was about 2min shorter so that it could fit onto a single CD. 😂 I don't hear "2 albums". This is a single, unified, 82min work, to my ears.

But it is definitely mostly subdued throughout. (The most dynamic part is at the end of CD2! I'm even more convinced to switch the CDs for listening now. That part should be album center. The Jan 6 speech should follow. I think.) For me that fits well with the "concept" as far as I can see it. Sort of a "Wtf just happened? We need to have a long conversation about this" type feel. (And then they voted for the fucking guy again!)

Oops...sorry. 😂

Minus1

#392
Obituary Of The Americas:

Wait...didn't U2 just release that also? Nevermind.

It's 5am. The volume is low.

But this one comes across as "more" in every way. More sample-heavy. More sound dynamics. A very dense listen after the relative sparseness of Death Zones. 

Yeah, this album ends up sounding quite pissed off, after a more ominous start. Very direct. I need to hear it loud!

It came out in 2016...were GO including USA in their thinking also? 😂

Minus1

#393
In-Konflikt:

A bit more industrial sounding, this. But...er...sophisticated. That's it! GO is SI: Sophisticated Industrial. 😂

Every album I've heard is so well produced, with a wonderful arc, and segues, and track sequencing. I get the feeling that they spend a shitload of time "perfecting" albums. Agonizing over which track fits where.

I'm loving this. It's not hugely different from a couple of previous listens. But I do sense that each album has its own flavour / focus.

The "politics" is always there, but always a bit vague to me also. I think GO want to provoke, but not specify.

Industrial Strife 1 is fantastic. A wonderful buzz-saw / engine type vibe - powering up - powering down. The Centerpiece, I think.

We end up in some kind of junkyard after this. Such varied, fantastic sounds here. Addictive.

Possibly my fav GO so far.

Great album!

Minus1

#394
虐殺機関

(Which means Genocide Organ!?)

Wow. 68min. And unofficially the second album - containing material from 85-90, plus bonus tracks 91-92.

Certainly a rawer sound. Muddier / shallower production than I'm used to thus far, but that is an observation, not a complaint.

This is quite wide ranging. Ambient passages to junkyard destruction. Not the kind of "flow" I'm already used to. I'm jolted at times.

Track 10 is a stunning closer to the originally intended album. How can the bonus tracks which follow do any justice?...

...But it works. The add-ons enhance.

Not my fav GO, but a very worthy listen.

pidgeons

I have always wondered, the WPF version on the 2012 remaster of 虐殺機関 sounds incredibly thin, like it was ripped straight from the '92 Acetate. The 2003 version is way heavier, more bass and louder. Really wonder if that was intentional. It is one of their 'smash hits' after all. The other 'bonus tracks' from those acetates don't have this sound issue. Of course they are still quite lo-fi but not as terribly mixed.
Best WPF version is still on Remember, with the iconic Motlana quote to start of and extended duration.

BatteredStatesofEuphoria

#396
Quote from: Minus1 on February 20, 2026, 01:52:26 AMIn-Konflikt:

A bit more industrial sounding, this. But...er...sophisticated. That's it! GO is SI: Sophisticated Industrial. 😂

I think that's the truth of GO, as much as anything is (but will it make you free?). They are the heirs of SPK more than Whitehouse or Ramleh. An old-school industrial band, not a power electronics one, albeit one that dabbles in power electronics and when they do, they usually do it very well ("Dogday," "Elders of Zion," "Viva La Guerre" among others). But that's not their main focus. I think a lot of the misconception that they get labeled as pe comes from how their reputation developed over the 90s before the mass adoption of the internet. And of course, I doubt the members of GO themselves would want themselves to be thought of as anything, and a lot of the ambiguity around them is deliberately created.

Years before I got more into experimental realms, the first mention of GO I ever saw was the infamous letter to the editor in Industrial Nation magazine that called them and Con-Dom "Nazis." (an entirely original allegation). This was the same letter, btw, referenced in Con-Dom's interview in Freak Animal #11. (Incidentally, for those that were into EBM/electro-industrial and came from that scene before noise like I did, I remember the author of said letter said he was :Wumpscut:, so I guess it was Rudy Ratzinger???)

As these things do, all that really did is pique my interest as to what the fuss was about, so their name stayed in the back of my mind until I started buying noise. I saw more mentions of them in magazines like Audio Drudge praising GO releases highly. This was the end of the 90s so, while the internet was there, it was still even years away from file sharing/torrenting. Unless you had access to some kind of tape trading network, which I certainly didn't, you weren't going to be able to hear any GO in advance. So with all that, and seeing GO releases going for (at the time) seemingly insane amounts on Ebay, they began to take on an almost mystical quality. Plus, they were always grouped under pe. So I thought they were pe. I had nothing else to go on. I also thought they must be the most insane music ever put to wax. I had already begun to place expectations on them that were going to be nigh impossible to meet.

I have a feeling that conception was like that for a lot of people in the 90s finding their way to this stuff. GO was pe, and they had to be the best at it, because their releases were rarer and more precious than gold.

1999 comes along and Malignant mail order gets The Truth Will Make You Free in. Finally, I'm getting my chance to hear GO in all its glory. I get the package, eagerly unwrap it, queue my player, place the needle down, and sit down in front of the speakers. I think I seriously expected to be staring at the back of a bloody hole in my skull from the wall behind me because the sheer aggressive power of GO had blown my eyes and brains out!

Of course, if you've listened to The Truth..., that is...not exactly what its about. Especially since the group was going through a bit of a shift at the time with Roland Freisler on the way out. But again, there was no way to know that context at the time.

When it was over, I was....puzzled, more than anything (and my brains were certainly NOT splattered all over the walls). I didn't dislike it exactly, but I was wondering what the hell the hype was about. Where was this maniacal power electronics hellscape that was going to pummel me into quivering bits of meat? "Harmony" was pretty good, though.

Interestingly, that came with the CD reissue of Leichenlinie, and that I did like a lot more, although still not a level that I could quite understand GO's reputation. I didn't throw anything out or sell it, though.

The 2000s came on, file sharing blossomed, and between that, and some Ebay haunting (and a wallet fatter from leaving behind the college years), I did end up getting to hear all of GO's discography to that point. I also was a little older and wiser and more able to appreciate music that was a little more than just aggression. And I noticed something. The mature atmospherics of The Truth... were actually not that unusual. All of GO's releases had that. Even Remember, with some of the most aggressive work of their discography, had a ton of atmospheric moments. This was really the majority of their sound, not the pe tracks. And I found myself liking it more and more, and thinking of them less and less as a pe band. I was perfectly primed for In Konflikt by the time it came out.

Anyway, yeah, I realize this turned into maybe some long-winded navel-gazing reminiscence, but if you'll forgive that, the point is In Konflikt is a great industrial album precisely because it represents GO at the height of their craftmanship of these kind of atmospherics. I doubt you'll find it #1 on many lists of "What is the Best GO," because its their least aggressive, but its mine (and #2 for me now is that same The Truth... that I didn't get at first). There's such a wealth of sounds and moods in its palette. And there's still a few caustic moments even so. The ending of "Industrial Strife Pt. 1" might be my favorite 2-3 minutes of sound ever. If someone asked what industrial music is in its original form, THAT is what I would play them.


NightsAquarium

#397
Genocide Organ absolutely is much closer to a pure industrial band than a power electronics band. Past a certain point, their only equally important contemporary becomes Laibach (with a radically different sound but very, very similar concept), not Slogun or Grunt. There is a certain rigidity of vision to GO, a sense of them figuring out everything they ever wanted to explore and communicate prior to ever even releasing their first album, and then just focusing on exploring and communicating that one thing. This generally feels like what industrial bands do. PE bands are different, messier and more chaotic.

Minus1

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on February 20, 2026, 10:57:47 PM
Quote from: Minus1 on February 20, 2026, 01:52:26 AMIn-Konflikt:

A bit more industrial sounding, this. But...er...sophisticated. That's it! GO is SI: Sophisticated Industrial. 😂

I think that's the truth of GO, as much as anything is (but will it make you free?). They are the heirs of SPK more than Whitehouse or Ramleh. An old-school industrial band, not a power electronics one, albeit one that dabbles in power electronics and when they do, they usually do it very well ("Dogday," "Elders of Zion," "Viva La Guerre" among others). But that's not their main focus. I think a lot of the misconception that they get labeled as pe comes from how their reputation developed over the 90s before the mass adoption of the internet. And of course, I doubt the members of GO themselves would want themselves to be thought of as anything, and a lot the ambiguity around them is deliberately created.

Years before I got more into experimental realms, the first mention of GO I ever saw was the infamous letter to the editor in Industrial Nation magazine that called them and Con-Dom "Nazis." (an entirely original allegation). This was the same letter, btw, referenced in Con-Dom's interview in Freak Animal #11. (Incidentally, for those that were into EBM/electro-industrial and came from that scene before noise like I did, I remember the author of said letter said he was :Wumpscut:, so I guess it was Rudy Ratzinger???)

As these things do, all that really did is pique my interest as to what the fuss was about, so their name stayed in the back of my mind until I started buying noise. I saw more mentions of them in magazines like Audio Drudge praising GO releases highly. This was the end of the 90s so, while the internet was there, it was still even years away from file sharing/torrenting. Unless you had access to some kind of tape trading network, which I certainly didn't, you weren't going to be able to hear any GO in advance. So with all that, and seeing GO releases going for (at the time) seemingly insane amounts on Ebay, they began to take on an almost mystical quality. Plus, they were always grouped under pe. So I thought they were pe. I had nothing else to go on. I also thought they must be the most insane music ever put to wax. I had already begun to place expectations on them that were going to be nigh impossible to meet.

I have a feeling that conception was like that for a lot of people in the 90s finding their way to this stuff. GO was pe, and they had to be the best at it, because their releases were rarer and more precious than gold.

1999 comes along and Malignant mail order gets The Truth Will Make You Free in. Finally, I'm getting my chance to hear GO in all its glory. I get the package, eagerly unwrap it, queue my player, place the needle down, and sit down in front of the speakers. I think I seriously expected to be staring at the back of a bloody hole in my skull from the wall behind me because the sheer aggressive power of GO had blown my eyes and brains out!

Of course, if you've listened to The Truth..., that is...not exactly what its about. Especially since the group was going through a bit of a shift at the time with Roland Freisler on the way out. But again, there was no way to know that context at the time.

When it was over, I was....puzzled, more than anything. I didn't dislike it exactly, but I was wondering what the hell the hype was about. Where was this maniacal power electronics hellscape that was going to pummel me into quivering bits of meat? "Harmony" was pretty good, though.

Interestingly, that came with the CD reissue of Leichenlinie, and that I did like a lot more, although still not a level that I could quite understand GO's reputation. I didn't throw anything out or sell it, though.

The 2000s came on, file sharing blossomed, and between that, and some Ebay haunting (and a wallet fatter from leaving behind the college years), I did end up getting to hear all of GO's discography to that point. I also was a little older and wiser and more able to appreciate music that was a little more than just aggression. And I noticed something. The mature atmospherics of The Truth... were actually not that unusual. All of GO's releases had that. Even Remember, with some of the most aggressive work of their discography, had a ton of atmospheric moments. This was really the majority of their sound, not the pe tracks. And I found myself liking it more and more, and thinking of them less and less as a pe band. I was perfectly primed for In Konflikt by the time it came out.

Anyway, yeah, I realize this turned into maybe some long-winded navel-gazing reminiscence, but if you'll forgive that, the point is In Konflikt is a great industrial album precisely because it represents GO at the height of their craftmanship of these kind of atmospherics. I doubt you'll find it #1 on many lists of "What is the Best GO," because its their least aggressive, but its mine (and #2 for me now is that same The Truth... that I didn't get at first). There's such a wealth of sounds and moods in its palette. And there's still a few caustic moments even so. The ending of "Industrial Stife Pt. 1" might be my favorite 2-3 minutes of sound ever. If someone asked what industrial music is in its original form, THAT is what I would play them.



I enjoyed this. Thanks.

Yes - Industrial Strife 1 really got my attention!

Leichenlinie tonight...

Minus1

#399
Leichenlinie:

I have the 11-track redo, which is the 9-track album (1987-1989 recordings) plus two 1991 tracks at the end.

As explained in detail above, this album has a huge reputation. I braced myself!

And halfway through I am very happy with this...er...Death Industrial icon, but unlike so many reviews out there, there is nothing "brutal" here.

I'm thrilled to report that here we have all of the GO magic that I have heard in other releases, in slightly sparser and rougher tones. This feels more beat heavy.

A harrowing, nightmarish quality is sustained throughout. Impressive.

Unlike 虐殺機関, I don't think the extras enhance the flow / feel of this album. They feel slightly out of place after track 9.

This is a fine album. But I honestly think it has a reputation that is beyond the actual content. GO certainly made better albums later.


Sonicgeist

#400
Quote from: Minus1 on February 21, 2026, 03:21:35 AMLeichenlinie:

I have the 11-track redo, which is the 9-track album (1987-1989 recordings) plus two 1991 tracks at the end.

As explained in detail above, this album has a huge reputation. I braced myself!

And halfway through I am very happy with this...er...Death Industrial icon, but unlike so many reviews out there, there is nothing "brutal" here.

I'm thrilled to report that here we have all of the GO magic that I have heard in other releases, in slightly sparser and rougher tones. This feels more beat heavy.

A harrowing, nightmarish quality is sustained throughout. Impressive.

Unlike 虐殺機関, I don't think the extras enhance the flow / feel of this album. They feel slightly out of place after track 9.

This is a fine album. But I honestly think it has a reputation that is beyond the actual content. GO certainly made better albums later.



Hi Minus, Tesco (label) gonna release on LP Save Our Slaves from G.O, I suggest you to grab one, you won't be disappointed =)
Here on YT
https://youtu.be/G97M9olj8xA

Minus1

Give Me CDs Or Give Me Death.

excruciation

Save Our Slaves is my favorite GO material. I'm glad it's getting a standalone reissue. The original packaging is absolutely incredible and, in my opinion, was their absolute zenith in terms of creative packaging and "telling a story."


impulse manslaughter

#403
Quote from: Minus1 on February 25, 2026, 05:20:40 PMGive Me CDs Or Give Me Death.

I have all their full lengths on CD so I find it very annoying this is LP-only.....

EDIT: Oh, i forgot it's on the Civilization 2CD set.

Minus1

Quote from: impulse manslaughter on February 26, 2026, 11:51:02 AM
Quote from: Minus1 on February 25, 2026, 05:20:40 PMGive Me CDs Or Give Me Death.

I have all their full lengths on CD so I find it very annoying this is LP-only.....

EDIT: Oh, i forgot it's on the Civilization 2CD set.

Ah! I shall look up this "Civilization".

I was expecting a CD announcement sometime though.