WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

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FreakAnimalFinland

I think there is similar quality in noise or power electronics. I don't think so many watch horror to be "scared" and in same way somewhat obscene noise may not be listened for sake of being "shocked" or such. It may be purely inspirational, in positive ways.

I was going to say about the thing they talked about horror movies often being the hunt. Good cover, good promising slogans on cover, and then most of the film is absolute boredom and few moments of violence or horror. You can say same thing about a lot of XXX films. Most of s/m, bondage, or more explicit material used to be that you'd be fast forwarding 55 mins of whore trying to get dog do something, and 5 mins of... well... something. Or slow paced plot, boring repetition, and nevertheless, you'll end up getting more... hah. Its the exploitation film tradition. Exploitation perhaps the subject, but also.. audience?
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RURAL RESISTANCE

I also recognize the hunt that was talked about. Applies to noise tapes too.

PTM Jim

Quote from: RURAL RESISTANCE on October 25, 2023, 09:13:19 PMI also recognize the hunt that was talked about. Applies to noise tapes too.
The hunt is the best part.

WCN

#573
Perhaps worth reminding that the last weekend of the month is the WCN Video party for Patreon supporters and podcast guests. We had it yesterday, and like always, the recording is now up on Patreon for those who missed out but would like to sit in. And, if anyone is still unclear, public episodes of the podcast come out on the first and third Monday of each month. The second Monday of the month is a Patreon episode, and the last weekend of the month is the video party, with the recording published on Patreon that Monday.

There will be a new public podcast episode next Monday with Mike Connelly of HAIR POLICE, YELLOW GAS FLAMES, Initiation Services, Noisextra, etc.

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WCN

Out now on WCN TV - DAVID GILDEN - Texas Pillbox boxset unboxing video

Unboxing the insane 16xCS DAVID GILDEN - Texas Pillbox boxset, released on Fusty Cunt. I went through each piece of this incredible set of morbid noise.

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See the first few minutes here: https://youtu.be/8S9e8B5bykw

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WCN

OUT NOW: Mike Connelly of HAIR POLICE / YELLOW GAS FLAMES / Initiation Services / Noisextra | WCN Podcast 65

Mike Connelly is an official noise veteran, though he is as vital and active as ever right now. From his founding work with HAIR POLICE, his Gods Of Tundra label, and as a member of WOLF EYES in the mid 2000s, through his current efforts, together with his wife Tara, as YELLOW GAS FLAMES, their Initiation Services label, and of course, their flagship podcast Noisextra, along with Greh Holger. Mike is someone who has lived and breathed noise through relentless touring, releasing, and collecting for decades, and continues to distill his passion and focus. This was a very fun episode for me, with many gems for the youth to pick up on!

https://youtu.be/weC0Z3_lz4c?si=cS7Zu9NWyaGWfiV0

Be sure to check out the 1+ hour EXT. segment, exclusively on Patreon. Mike talks about his time in WOLF EYES, more stories and wisdom from the road, and his top 5 adult film stars of all time! Mike also shared download codes from V/A - Any and All Action (Initiation Services) and YELLOW GAS FLAMES - Ben Wa (Hospital Productions)

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FreakAnimalFinland

Excellent episode. Also many curious things, like Mike getting notch more personal, mentioning how podcast is almost like therapeutic thing to get mind off from all the nuisance happening in life. Health problems and such. It explains quite nicely why doing podcast should be most of all fun!

Many things one could use as starting point for discussions. One is that he mentions hopes that someone would start podcast for new stuff, since they had set up goal to cover the oldies. Complimenting WCN for stepping up for new artists. This is curious situation, since notion of what is "old" and what is "new" has changed quite a lot.

I was recently browsing through Freak Animal #11 in attempt to find specific information and happened to look at the Grey Wolves interview. It was fresh interview at the time (1997?) and GW mentioned they have been around for long long time - that was like 12 years.. First tapes being published in 1985. Back then, there was two kinds of talk. Some people seemed to consider that this 85'ish artists were flogging the dead horse as original industrial and power electronics was dead and gone. Others seemed to feel that GW was indeed very much part of the original industrial and seemingly been around forever. 12 years was damn long time when thinking many of the early protagonist existed only handful of years before moving on or quitting.

Sure, 12 is a lot, but from todays perspective, with Exit Strategy album GW was already 30+. Since then no new material, merely reissues have happened. Old timers being around for several decades is feeling long, but reading old interview of band that has been around for 12 years, means now that if someone would be now talking about that, it would mean being from 2011.. that feels almost like "new project".

It might be also matter of perspective. Anyways, I agree with Mike welcoming people to cover new things. This is something I wonder, that back in the day, interviews in UG zines were most often done with people who were just getting started. Bands and artists who had merely couple tapes in circulation or couple gigs behind. And that would be enough. People who just had found out about type of music, first attempts to make it, and instantly supported by "UG press". This is way less common now, and if feels little odd that someone would have to first sort of become acknowledged veteran before interviewed? Of course SI magazine features new projects all the time, but there is also intent to cover even newer. That perspective of movement, that there are new things happening, and also interesting things happening, that could catch now and not wait till artists already "retired" and then everybody can say how underrated they were... hah.

I was told the 1+ patreon extra is even better than this public episode. Any extra comments on that, of course welcomed.
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Fistfuck Masonanie

#577
The whole episode with Mike was fantastic, in total with the exclusive content is 3-hours. The extended Patreon exclusive conversation was great. They get into solid discussions about the state of noise, why they think it's been hitting new heights the last few years, and more personal discussions. In relation to the question of why noise seems to have a heightened wave of interest again and new levels of activity, originally I was thinking I didn't really have an answer to that. Then they started to elaborate, well the introduction of Noisextra podcast and now WCN, duh! All of this new discussion around artists and labels has been healthy. That wasn't the main point and it wasn't self-congratulatory or self-promotional by any means, but they are right that it has certainly helped.

Then the Covid shut down and stimulus that led to a lot of artist and label activity, case in point, Troniks being relaunched as one example. And Mike had an interesting perspective with the reissue of the Skin Crime boxset and some of the USA-based Merzbow shows before 2020 getting people psyched again on classic material providing new motivations and enthusiasm. Ripple effects that have traveled through the scene were kind of an enlightening moment. Discussions of artists that have disappeared from the scene and started reappearing as of late. Anyway, kind of rambling but it was a good discussion and one of my favorite episodes and guests from WCN in general. Sounds like Mike is open to an Afterblast episode and looking forward to that immensely.

I do think we are kind of in a golden moment of noise where the caliber of artists, labels, and surrounding media is in the perfect sweet spot. Still underground, with a lot of discussion and incredible material being produced. All most too much, I have trouble keeping up with it all, but it's a good problem to have. But we don't have that weird popular culture influence that Mike talks about from around 2010 or so when Wolf Eyes was being interviewed by Spin magazine or artists being sponsored by Red Bull or whatever, and getting this weird major music coverage and corporate attention.

Complete change of topic and jumping back a bit. I really enjoyed the episode with Jamie Van Blake as well. A bittersweet interview knowing he passed, but incredible to get some insight into the man behind enigmatic projects like Coma Detox and Disgusting Sanctum. I don't have anything to specific to dive into there, but just really enjoy learning more about the artists and projects I enjoy and appreciate this candid and personal insight provided by the podcast.

FreakAnimalFinland

Quote from: Fistfuck Masonanie on November 11, 2023, 10:42:56 PMIn relation to the question of why noise seems to have a heightened wave of interest again and new levels of activity, originally I was thinking I didn't really have an answer to that. Then they started to elaborate, well the introduction of Noisextra podcast and now WCN, duh! All of this new discussion around artists and labels has been healthy. That wasn't the main point and it wasn't self-congratulatory or self-promotional by any means, but they are right that it has certainly helped.

Discussions of artists that have disappeared from the scene and started reappearing as of late. Anyway, kind of rambling but it was a good discussion and one of my favorite episodes and guests from WCN in general. Sounds like Mike is open to an Afterblast episode and looking forward to that immensely.

I would think it is obvious that podcasts vitalized part of the noise talk. I am also occasionally quite baffled when people say that it seems like I am like only guy promoting noisepodcasts in form of actual commentary and attempts to continue some discussions presented on them, at the forum. As I am not present in many of the social media platforms, I don't know or see what happens there, but I've been told its emojis, thumbs ups and oneliners. Rarely actual noise talk? Of course it must happen at patreon user related chat or whatever and privately. But that is different from visible noise talk, where new guys who may not be insiders, have access for dialogue. Any art that regresses merely into commodity, especially these days, ain't very interesting. I would suspect the amount of noise talk tends to correlate with meaning.
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WCN

New WCN TV video out now!!! - Digging Through My Noise Collection in Storage

Digging through and listening to my noise collection that's been in storage for 8 years - with the audio from what I'm hearing in my headphones.

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Short clip here: https://youtu.be/br4afUPcLjo
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HateSermon

The most recent episode was a good watch. The old crates in Oskar's Mom's basement act as time capsules to the early/mid 2000's noise collector. There are many, many releases stored in those boxes that are sought after nowadays. Bunch of shit from Kakerlak, Keith's projects, early F&V, IOPS, Gaping Hole... the list goes on. One of the funnier moments was when he realized he unknowlingly had an original copy of Emil Beaulieau - In The Pale Moon Light and the dubbing was shit. I suppose his reissue was worthy after all! One interesting takeaway was seeing how releases hold up over the years. Issues with special packaging breaking down or CD-Rs not working. There are a few of those he points out. Having to wash hands after touching special packaging with mysterious liquid on it... considering this genre one can only imagine what that may have been.

WCN

OUT NOW! Tourniquet Noise Series feat. BODY CARVE and Grant Richardson on WCN Podcast
During my visit to my hometown of Minneapolis, I was fortunate enough to catch a Tourniquet Noise show - the monthly noise series put on by Grant Richardson at the Red Sea Ethiopian Restaurant and Bar. I ran into N. Desuah of BODY CARVE there for a brief chat about his new album "Studies In Advanced Decomposition," just released on Chondritic Sound. I also sat down with Grant afterwards to talk about the series - its history, goals, challenges, and future. Of course caught live sets from SALAMANDER KEY, FORMS IN NATURE, VIATOR, and THE BLIGHT as well, who were performing that night. Respect to real people doing real things!

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FreakAnimalFinland

Short, but sweet. It is indeed different thing to be together in same space, rather than talking heads of the zoom meeting, hah. The little, but very significant difference.

I suppose the "local scene noise" question is very interesting, as thinking of them talking about three separate noise scenes being in the city. It is sort of weird thinking that when you got the international, actual world wide known noise scene stuff, it is almost heroic reports done of single noise gigs and fests.. while how many hears (before this) about endless monthly noise events happening in Minneapolis? couple each month, just in one city. Of course some of it may not be actual noise but some sort of experimental sound.
Finland has about the same population as Minnesota, not very different density of population. I would still think montly noisy events being constantly organized on weekdays in some helsinki bar would get old fairly quick? Of course we do have over here also the artists of "local noise" flavor to it, but would appear as if bands would almost automatically lean towards international noise approach. At least the good ones. As soon as material is some sort of experimental sound, strange synth experiments and beats and stuff, I guess those tend to quickly fall into "for locals only" and nobody really needs to care of them as you got equivalent for the stuff in every country, or city.
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OUT NOW:

BURNING on WCN Podcast

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BURNING has been Minneapolis's best kept secret for over a decade. A brutally honest and musically progressive industrial band fronted by Sadie Ryan, transforming personal despair and fury into an aesthetically singular assault on the sensibilities. With virtually zero internet presence and few recordings in circulation, live performances in the city have been the only way to truly experience their unique power. This interview is particularly important to me, as I was also a founding member of the band, and consider Sadie my best friend. Welcome to BURNING - you will know them.

In the Patreon bonus EXT. segment of this episode, we hung out with the camera in Sadie and Adam's apartment, where Sadie showed me the leather garments and BDSM gear she's been making, they both shared their top 5 records of all time, and more. See that and more exclusive content at https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
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FreakAnimalFinland

I don't know for a fact if noise makers are leaning more into publishing or communication beyond local level than some other genres. I think I have discussed about topic somewhere. Maybe there is "local noise" topic somewhere at the forum..

It is very much possible that if there is local noise makers who are not visible.. then.. you don't know about them. However, it feels that there is way way more "local music bands" that consist of people who play and make songs, but never feel like they would need to be out there more than that. See no purpose to be heard and appreciated, anywhere further than local scene. In noise, many times there is just pure lack of local scene, and especially in past, you simply needed to start making connections to even hear other people's releases. Giving out tapes would feel odd, if there is absolutely nobody to give it to, hah..

These days, situation is so different. If there is no "drive" to be "out there" so to say, it may be also good that idea of local noise only heard by people who are out there watching shows (or in some cases buying releases from members at the gigs) and not every artists really needs to be aiming to become internationally recognized name. It is curious thing how some types of sound clearly has more of "local" feel. Then other artists, who may be equally small, or even smaller, but has handful of fanatical buyers around the world.

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