Punk/Hardcore

[tiny_tove]

Loved Breakdown, bass lines were fantastic. Same guys behind my fave metal core band of those years, Killing Time.

I was very easy to please.  The only records of that time and place that I could not get into were Killing Time - Brightside and Judge - Bringin' It Down.  I thought that was maybe a consequence to the lifeless Brightside recording, and when a respected tape trader encouraged me to give them another chance and sent this video as evidence, I thought I'd change my mind.  I love that it is on youtube now.  But I found the live show just as sterile.  I think I'm going to give it another chance, though.  I'm really in the mood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPjYiyC7Xxo

ehhe Judge were my fave of the lot, but it took me a while to get used to the sound of bringin' it down... today the song I hated most (the storm) is my fave, especially the version on the 7".
of the same scene another monster group were REST IN PIECES, first lp, demo/7" and the amazing tracks on the FREE FOR ALL compilation felt like air for me. Armand Majidi's voice was epic.

[Zeno Marx]

Bl'ast - The Power of Expression (1986)
Bl'ast - It's in My Blood (1987)

I used to think It's in My Blood was the only other album around that time that was similar to Age of Quarrel.  Heavy.  Simple, yet sweeping riffs.  Strangely timed, yet in a tight groove; almost danceable in the instinctual familiarness.  Caveman vibe.  Tense-necked vocals.  Existential lyrics (I'm not trying to sell them as Kierkegaard, but the perspective is unique).  The big difference being the Black Flag/Ginn-esque licks of Bl'ast.  From my listening angle, they still feel like kin.

[WAKO]

I don't know if anybody here is into Jap OI! and the whole 90's called SSS (skinhead samurai spirit)
music is some sort of very metalized oi with completely over the top sing along and rough vocals.

These are some highlights:

cannons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=652E9NBs1Kc

miburo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqiIKKujGA&feature=relmfu

sledgehammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4NtQH-7Pj8

strongblossom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOgtEmkZ0gc&feature=relmfu

and my cult (although definitely more hardcore/metal influenced)

jin rai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krg9CLHqbiU&feature=plcp

shitload of stuff on this channel
other personal faves
strong style
kobra
ouka
bad voltures

If anybody wants more I would suggest to get the Fight back for the rising sun compilation.

Yeah that shit is pretty good and funny at times too. I have the Werewolf DLP, it has many of the bands you mentioned on it. Good shit, especially Sledgehammer's jingle jangle...

[bitewerksMTB]

"Wacky Hi-jinxs of..." from Adrenalin OD is a long-time fave LP. Such a heavy sound on a lot of those songs. Not sure I've heard their debut 7", should look into that.

[impulse manslaughter]

That 7"  is a classic!

[jesusfaggotchrist]

Bl'ast - The Power of Expression (1986)
Bl'ast - It's in My Blood (1987)

I used to think It's in My Blood was the only other album around that time that was similar to Age of Quarrel.  Heavy.  Simple, yet sweeping riffs.  Strangely timed, yet in a tight groove; almost danceable in the instinctual familiarness.  Caveman vibe.  Tense-necked vocals.  Existential lyrics (I'm not trying to sell them as Kierkegaard, but the perspective is unique).  The big difference being the Black Flag/Ginn-esque licks of Bl'ast.  From my listening angle, they still feel like kin.

its great, and I'd like to own Power Of Expression, too, at some point.

[jesusfaggotchrist]

I wonder if someone here could offer some insight into the collectivist mentality of punk/hardcore versus the individualist mentality of black metal as the two scenes (up til now) have had a noted rivalry. I've heard some Infest/MITB dismiss BM as "silly neckbeards running through the forest in makeup", while BM types mostly dismissed punk/hardcore as "life music" and "devoid of musical value".

[jesusfaggotchrist]

speaking of crews...Swing on sight family can take a long walk off a short pier

[WAKO]

I wonder if someone here could offer some insight into the collectivist mentality of punk/hardcore versus the individualist mentality of black metal as the two scenes (up til now) have had a noted rivalry. I've heard some Infest/MITB dismiss BM as "silly neckbeards running through the forest in makeup", while BM types mostly dismissed punk/hardcore as "life music" and "devoid of musical value".

It seemed like a PV fundamental was making fun of BM... Anal Cunt had songs, Spazz and I know there were more I just can't think of it. I think most of those guys like the music but were hung up on the imagery; if your not goofy and make fun of everything your gay or for the PC bands "lame".

[Mikerdeath]

Bl'ast - The Power of Expression (1986)
Bl'ast - It's in My Blood (1987)

I used to think It's in My Blood was the only other album around that time that was similar to Age of Quarrel.  Heavy.  Simple, yet sweeping riffs.  Strangely timed, yet in a tight groove; almost danceable in the instinctual familiarness.  Caveman vibe.  Tense-necked vocals.  Existential lyrics (I'm not trying to sell them as Kierkegaard, but the perspective is unique).  The big difference being the Black Flag/Ginn-esque licks of Bl'ast.  From my listening angle, they still feel like kin.

its great, and I'd like to own Power Of Expression, too, at some point.

Power Of Expression is their best effort in my opinion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj00Mhu4OdI

[humanpulp]

Any power violence recommendations? Listened to the upcoming Sea of Shit/Water Torture 7" which is pretty good. W.T. uses a bit of noise on their last track. Are there any one-stop shopping websites for hardcore/PV, etc. with good prices? I'm thinking of doing any order with Diseased Audio for a couple of 7"'s...

i am in Sea Of Shit. grim dirge power violence- members also spent time with various PE/NOISE outfits- CONSTRICTIONS, ABUSE PATTERNS, HATE BASEMENT, etc. you can keep up with anything new we are doing here: http://seaofshit.bandcamp.com/ all of our current releases available for free download. we just released the split with New York's WATER TORTURE http://grindcorekaraoke.com/album/shellfire, dual bass power violence, and i think they have live electronics now. they are definitely a band doing it right these days. SEA OF SHIT is currently writing for a 10" which should hopefully be out by summer 13 in time for a east coast/us south tour with

SICK/TIRED http://sick-tired.bandcamp.com/album/unreleased-lp-sample-tracks-2013 who are a grind/PV band also from chicago, featuring members of WINTERS IN OSAKA and ex-90s mainstays MK ULTRA. they will also have an LP available for that tour.

also interesting in chicago-

CONSENT, http://consentpv.bandcamp.com/ who are an on again/off again Power violence band with their dicks dipped deeply in noise. featuring members of HATE BASEMENT and MACHISMO and ex- WEEKEND NACHOS. they were on an indefinite hiatus, but are apparently returning soon, as DISEASED AUDIO http://diseasedaudio.storenvy.com/, a label and distro run by the vocalist of SEA OF SHIT is giving their widely unavailable demo a proper rerelease.

RECTAL HYGIENICS http://fuckrectalhygienics.bandcamp.com/ are actually not a PV or grind band, but tread the path of bands like RUSTED SHUT, BRAINBOMBS, and DRUNKDRIVER. midpaced blown out noise rock. members also do time in SEA OF SHIT, HATE BASEMENT, MACHISMO, and SHARPTOOTH (a lot of incest in this scene).

WORN OUT http://wornxout.bandcamp.com/album/shackles-worn-out-split are just a blistering three piece grind assault. fairly new. but their most recent split with australia's SHACKLES is a rager.

PAUCITIES http://paucities.bandcamp.com/album/upcoming-split-lp-w-agathocles is members of WINTERS IN OSAKA, MAGIA NUDA, and SICK/TIRED doing the whole Agothocles mince thing, but probably better than Agothocles does these days.

EDIT/ADDED

URINECOP https://soundcloud.com/jimharas/urine-cop-sample is a toiletgrind shit heap featuring members of DETERGE, WIO, and ENDLESS BLOCKADE. total blown out stupidity. just released an amazing 7" on Fusty Cunt

MEN AS WITCHES http://menaswitches.bandcamp.com/album/outer-darkness are members of WORN OUT as a two piece sludge/PV unit. new 7" coming soon on DISMANTLE records.

other notable things going on-

VILE INTENT http://vileintent.likeweeds.org/ are canada's answer to true power violence. have been lucky to play shows with these guys a bunch of times, and they never disappoint.

also

SCAPHE http://scaphe.bandcamp.com/ is a band/record i have been so psyched on lately. Minneapolis's answer to MAN IS THE BASTARD/BASTARD NOISE style og/pv worship. dirge. bass wankery. odd time signatures. noise. truly great.

[jesusfaggotchrist]

I wonder if someone here could offer some insight into the collectivist mentality of punk/hardcore versus the individualist mentality of black metal as the two scenes (up til now) have had a noted rivalry. I've heard some Infest/MITB dismiss BM as "silly neckbeards running through the forest in makeup", while BM types mostly dismissed punk/hardcore as "life music" and "devoid of musical value".

It seemed like a PV fundamental was making fun of BM... Anal Cunt had songs, Spazz and I know there were more I just can't think of it. I think most of those guys like the music but were hung up on the imagery; if your not goofy and make fun of everything your gay or for the PC bands "lame".

most of the Ross Bay types would shit on those fucks. I like Anal Cunt, btw. most PC shit is well, shit.

[tiny_tove]

I wonder if someone here could offer some insight into the collectivist mentality of punk/hardcore versus the individualist mentality of black metal as the two scenes (up til now) have had a noted rivalry. I've heard some Infest/MITB dismiss BM as "silly neckbeards running through the forest in makeup", while BM types mostly dismissed punk/hardcore as "life music" and "devoid of musical value".

well, apart from no-future types, most punk/hc was somehow striving to change/save the world, reacting to society's pressure, while die -hard BM was for total annhilation.
back in the days in several HC eyes BM was either ridicolous or NAZI (this long before BURZUM started wearing swastikas and the birth of NSBM), and for BM, HC was pro-light/life ecc.

On the other hand in Europe many HC people were heavily into BM and got very influenced, think about the Belgian scene and many others in Italy, a I have seen several BM people at HC/OI! gigs, so it is not always a rule.

[Mikerdeath]

I found this and wanted to post it here.

ATROCIOUS MADNESS interview in Finnish:
http://www.punkinfinland.net/tv/julkaisut/147/atrocious.html

[Nyodene D]

Saw Harvest last night. Excellent live band. Beefy pit action.