NOISEXTRA - A podcast about noise

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, May 31, 2019, 12:16:12 PM

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Zeno Marx

Jason Mantis would be an interesting interview.  From running the Celtic Frost USA fan club to early zine(s?) to his metal band(s?) to Malignant to Audio Drudge.  I believe he was mentioned in the Cryptic Slaughter doc on FOAD for doing something I'd never heard of before (and now can't seem to recollect).  He's had his hands in things for a long, long time now.
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post-morten

I've just recently gotten into Noisextra and am slowly working my way backwards in reverse chronology. Excellent stuff! Very in depth and knowledgeable without any excessive academic baggage. Just pure passion for the subject. This is probably mentioned somewhere already, but is there a reason for not playing any music on the show? A conscious decision, or legal/copyright issues? I for one would enjoy a talk with John ZeWizz about his personal journey. From running a Rolling Stones fan club to Sleep Chamber, Women of the SS, etc.

FreakAnimalFinland

I suppose it is also for copyright reasons as you will hear podcast on every platform, and these days AI quickly detects music that someone has copyright..

Like new episode, I suppose all names that come up here are classic industrial music in a way that it probably has copyright that even short clip would block it from many platforms?

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/09/06/in-conversation-with-paul-bee-hampshire/

QuoteFrom providing homemade Manson shirts to John Balance and David Tibet to buzzing around the Psychic TV world to narrating Genesis P-Orridge's autobiography, Paul "Bee" Hampshire has been all around the world, heavily within the UK industrial scene. Bee tells us his life story, which includes briefly being a pop star in Japan as well as working at an early 80s fetish club, and gives a cool different history of the strange world of the 80s and 90s.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Bee talks living in Thailand, working on Thai radio, and make electro music while living there. This 20 minute segment is in the middle of the episode on the patreon feed.

About 2 hour episode with lots of neat stories from early days of industrial. Even more interesting it gets when they do start to discuss not only history, but even the intent and process of doing, and proceed into importance of interview (like this one they are doing) itself. Bee mentions how a lot of things are so subconscious that many times you don't really (need to) think about it while making, it just comes. And only in interview, when pushed into situation of explaining these ideas and work itself, it is moment where you kind of explain to yourself something what formerly was merely subconscious.

They do discuss things like the early 80's industrial music research, where you got no access for information really. Talking David Tibet having access to library archives where he couldn't get anything out, but would record things on tape and bring them out and meetings with discussions about all these things with the others (TG, Coil, Psychic TV, C93 ...circles). Proceeding into discussion how people used to travel hundreds of kilometers just to see image. While now, a lot of things are diluted, and we excess of everything is so huge, that now importance shifts rather into emphasis on intent. To clarify what it means, one can listen interview. Very much worth for anyone into UK weird culture, industrial music and so on.
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Confuzzled

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 07, 2023, 02:41:35 PMI suppose it is also for copyright reasons as you will hear podcast on every platform, and these days AI quickly detects music that someone has copyright..

Like new episode, I suppose all names that come up here are classic industrial music in a way that it probably has copyright that even short clip would block it from many platforms?

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/09/06/in-conversation-with-paul-bee-hampshire/

QuoteFrom providing homemade Manson shirts to John Balance and David Tibet to buzzing around the Psychic TV world to narrating Genesis P-Orridge's autobiography, Paul "Bee" Hampshire has been all around the world, heavily within the UK industrial scene. Bee tells us his life story, which includes briefly being a pop star in Japan as well as working at an early 80s fetish club, and gives a cool different history of the strange world of the 80s and 90s.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Bee talks living in Thailand, working on Thai radio, and make electro music while living there. This 20 minute segment is in the middle of the episode on the patreon feed.

About 2 hour episode with lots of neat stories from early days of industrial. Even more interesting it gets when they do start to discuss not only history, but even the intent and process of doing, and proceed into importance of interview (like this one they are doing) itself. Bee mentions how a lot of things are so subconscious that many times you don't really (need to) think about it while making, it just comes. And only in interview, when pushed into situation of explaining these ideas and work itself, it is moment where you kind of explain to yourself something what formerly was merely subconscious.

They do discuss things like the early 80's industrial music research, where you got no access for information really. Talking David Tibet having access to library archives where he couldn't get anything out, but would record things on tape and bring them out and meetings with discussions about all these things with the others (TG, Coil, Psychic TV, C93 ...circles). Proceeding into discussion how people used to travel hundreds of kilometers just to see image. While now, a lot of things are diluted, and we excess of everything is so huge, that now importance shifts rather into emphasis on intent. To clarify what it means, one can listen interview. Very much worth for anyone into UK weird culture, industrial music and so on.

I'm having a hard time getting through this one to be honest. Silver rubber suit, blah blah blah.... I feel like the crew was a bit unprepared for this and let Bee run on and on....

absurdexposition

Quote from: Confuzzled on September 08, 2023, 04:51:17 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 07, 2023, 02:41:35 PMI suppose it is also for copyright reasons as you will hear podcast on every platform, and these days AI quickly detects music that someone has copyright..

Like new episode, I suppose all names that come up here are classic industrial music in a way that it probably has copyright that even short clip would block it from many platforms?

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/09/06/in-conversation-with-paul-bee-hampshire/

QuoteFrom providing homemade Manson shirts to John Balance and David Tibet to buzzing around the Psychic TV world to narrating Genesis P-Orridge's autobiography, Paul "Bee" Hampshire has been all around the world, heavily within the UK industrial scene. Bee tells us his life story, which includes briefly being a pop star in Japan as well as working at an early 80s fetish club, and gives a cool different history of the strange world of the 80s and 90s.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Bee talks living in Thailand, working on Thai radio, and make electro music while living there. This 20 minute segment is in the middle of the episode on the patreon feed.

About 2 hour episode with lots of neat stories from early days of industrial. Even more interesting it gets when they do start to discuss not only history, but even the intent and process of doing, and proceed into importance of interview (like this one they are doing) itself. Bee mentions how a lot of things are so subconscious that many times you don't really (need to) think about it while making, it just comes. And only in interview, when pushed into situation of explaining these ideas and work itself, it is moment where you kind of explain to yourself something what formerly was merely subconscious.

They do discuss things like the early 80's industrial music research, where you got no access for information really. Talking David Tibet having access to library archives where he couldn't get anything out, but would record things on tape and bring them out and meetings with discussions about all these things with the others (TG, Coil, Psychic TV, C93 ...circles). Proceeding into discussion how people used to travel hundreds of kilometers just to see image. While now, a lot of things are diluted, and we excess of everything is so huge, that now importance shifts rather into emphasis on intent. To clarify what it means, one can listen interview. Very much worth for anyone into UK weird culture, industrial music and so on.

I'm having a hard time getting through this one to be honest. Silver rubber suit, blah blah blah.... I feel like the crew was a bit unprepared for this and let Bee run on and on....

I didn't find many issues with it. I'm often listening at 1.2x speed, so perhaps that helped with any rambling, but I overall found it rather interesting and worth it for all the anecdotes. Brion Gysin dancing around and raving about Heathen Earth is a great image.
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FreakAnimalFinland

And for me, the rubber fetish club stuff certainly would have been thing they could have talked even more! The original Skin Two club, before such magazine even existed. Name dropping mr. Atomage but not really full stories of that, even though I'd assume there could have been. It is not noise, but certainly plays role in industrial culture.

Like in case of Finland, entire fetish club scene is way way later than UK, but it nicely ties into works of industrial noise. Like in case of Nalle Virolainen, who pioneered the body modification, primitive tattoos and such..  Regardless that he is not involved in noise at all, influence ties tightly into older generation of noise makers. Läjä Äijälä being both noise makers himself, but also bringing the rubber perversions into comics, hardcore punk, art, etc.  I would not be surprised if some noise makers outside Finland would be like "who cares", but in the end, to really see where certain culture existed in way it did, can be enlightening when you realize the environment they existed etc.

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FreakAnimalFinland

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 31, 2023, 10:06:30 AM-Noise tour organizers. When the first long tours started, some of stories has been in noisextra, but it would be neat to hear more.
etc etc..


Suggested many times, and I guess others did too..

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/09/13/noise-on-tour/

Casual talk about things related to touring.  I would guess that one element of especially youthful years of touring, which is barely mentioned is the sheer amount of drinking & other substances. I suppose in some cases when you hear that touring is no longer as fun as it used to be, may be simply result of not wanting or being able to, be doing that couple weeks in a row, haha..

I mostly play sober, as keeping things pro, hah, but going on tour with no drinking would be like... what's the fun in that?


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FreakAnimalFinland

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/10/04/inanna-storm-i-iii/
Look into old Swedish dark sounds, discussions between Mike & Tara and another session with Mike & Greh.

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/10/11/in-conversation-with-lasse-marhaug/
This one real treat for rare occasion of Norwegian noise at any podcast! 80 minutes with Lasse, dealing things since his very early stages of UG metal and noise involvement and continues via label works, live stories, noise making, magazine making and so on..  Obviously another example how impossible to squeeze in anyone into podcast without feeling there would be ton of thing to discuss. Testicle Hazard gets covered a bit and some of his latest releases too and man mentions Personal Best 10 under work.
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FreakAnimalFinland

Two new episodes are less about noise, more movie soundtrack, game music etc.

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/10/18/the-last-house-on-dead-end-street-with-adam-higgins-of-vombis/
"we talk to Adam Higgins who released the soundtrack on LP. He tells us how the record came together and how he figured out where all the tracks came from. After he heads back to work, we get into the movie itself. It is very appropriate listening and watching for the darkest month"

mr. Higgins is fast talking enthusiast.

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/10/25/atrax-morgue-death-orgasm-connector/
When this album came out, I remember being quite shocked. It is so digitally clean, so sharp, so minimal, so deranged vocals. It took long time to REALLY get into it, yet album stands as 100% unique album in this genre.

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/11/01/in-conversation-with-ross-tregenza-the-texas-chain-saw-massacre-video-game-cyberpunk-2077/
"Video game composer and sound designer Ross Tregenza joins us to discuss the process of creating all the sounds for the new Texas Chain Saw Massacre video game and maintaining a faithful atmosphere to Tobe Hooper's 1974 film. Tregenza's soundtrack plays separately from the game as an excellent dark ambient album rich in tension. We discuss how he got into the industry, his work for Cyberpunk 2077, varying levels of chicken agitation and composing for games in general."

I may have expressed my dislike for certain things so often, should rather just ignore, hah. This sound designed, has reel-to-reel and analogue gear and many things very common with "noise makers" of what I generally prefer.
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FreakAnimalFinland

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/11/08/in-conversation-with-andy-ortmann-panicsville-nihilist-recordings/

QuoteWe had a great time catching up with our old friend Andy Ortmann of Panicsville and Nihilist Recordings. Andy has been doing it since 1992 with no signs of stopping. From his beginnings in St. Louis to relocating to Chicago, we go into his entire noise history. Ortmann has worked with innumerable artists and his passion for the underground has never wavered. Head thru a portal to the outer limits and forget about the return.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Mike pulls out a compilation VHS that Andy made for Mike over 20 years ago. We go through the entire contents and have a blast heading down VHS memory lane.

Nice interview episode. The old days. Andy talks about making anti-records before seeing any anti-records and so on. Its funny Andy talks about learning how to fill forms to offer CD for Bestbuy who then orders 200 copies noise CD, hah!


Many early FA releases not being very interesting for most of dealers. Finnish noise wasn't always wanted. It would be more like putting all your funds to finance vinyl records and distros would take 3 copies... Then Aube/Grunt 7" comes out, and I get order for 100 copies from RRRon, but I could only send 90 to RRRecords, who pays in cash. 50 copies order from Anomalous. Aube royalties went to Japan.. since pressing was merely 200.. I got like couple dozen copies that didn't go to Japan or USA...

Back then, foolishly had no idea about certain "demand hierarchy" in noise and expected similar zero reaction as there was for Finns. Funny thing with that was that I didn't even hear what material was before it was pressed. I simply trusted Aube will be good as he always was back then, but didn't have means to listen DAT master, so I just sent Aube DAT and Grunt c-cassette to factory to be pressed. Masters stayed at factory, so vinyl 7" is only thing that really exists.

Not really related story to episode, in other way than was surprising in same way as having Bestbuy buying huge amount of CD. These days it would be probably even bigger surprise to get order of hundreds of copies of one title, though!
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FreakAnimalFinland

New episode is very good! It would be great if something like this would be applied more often. Here they do have multiple Skin Crime members involved, but also label boss mr. Hospital. It is not like chaotic group talk, but they have recorded couple conversations and edited them together. It has the free flow of podcast format, but hint towards "document" type, where Fernow pieces are here and there in middle of conversation when they fit in.

Despite several people being there, it does not become hectic or chaotic chatter. Very good episode for anyone into SKIN CRIME!

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/11/22/in-conversation-with-skin-crime/

QuoteNoise History class is underway with a full-to-the-brim episode focusing on the Skin Crime s/t LP on Hospital Productions from 2003. We had a conversation looking back on this time with Pat, and appropriately (as you'll hear), Mark jumps on out of nowhere near the end. We talked with Dominick leading up to the episode and insert his recollections and thoughts on releasing the very first Hospital LP throughout. Part "in conversation," part "audio documentary," all SKIN CRIME.

For the ExtraNOISEXTRA segment on the patreon, we hear a lot more background from Dominick including Peter Lee's involvement, the idea behind the center labels, and a story of laying out the LP with his teacher. This segment immediately follows the regular episode on the patreon feed.
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KillToForget

I really enjoyed this one. It combines their album review and interview formats. I thought it worked really well

FreakAnimalFinland

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/11/29/early-lexington-noise-shows/

QuoteMike and Tara take a trip back to their earliest days in Lexington, KY and discuss some memorable shows and events from that time. A show at Club Seal that ended at the hospital, shows in the street, in tiny apartments and more. Never let the fire of the maverick days go out.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, we discuss some of our recent listening including a release that very much pertains to the regular episode.

Many times in past requested Noisextra folks talk about themselves, and now recently not only Mike and Greh were interviewed in WCN, but also bunch of these more personal episodes came. For me it is very interesting moment where some of the well known players in genre start out of... almost nothing. And little by little - OR most often, in fast paced leaps they become the kind of core forces and people who sort of lead the way, hah.. Even if Tara has been present in countless Noisextra (and Patreon specials), I don't think I ever read or heard interview with her. That should be good, when would get interviewed alone!



QuoteIt's been referenced many times throughout the years on Noisextra, especially on our recent Skin Crime episode, so we felt it was time to finally discuss the "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" VHS. "Huck Finn" documents the 1997 tour featuring the Haters, Emil Beaulieau, the Haters, Skin Crime, Crank Sturgeon, and Angst Hase Pfeffer Nase. It's an absolute classic VHS and we got some inside info from some participants. Get lost on the back roads with us and "Huck Finn."

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Ron Lessard granted us permission to put up the entire VHS. Head over to the Noisextra patreon to view in full!

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/12/06/adventures-of-huckleberry-finn-vhs/

There are so many similar stories with mine. Getting VHS from RRR first, that happened before internet, before seeing photos of anyone... and asking who are you in this VHS and RRRon writes "I'm the one with bald spot", haha..  Noise in era when that wasn't describing half of the guys...
Listening the discussion revolving around the video, makes one think that documenting noise shows these days could indeed have little bits of off-stage things.

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Confuzzled

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 08, 2023, 12:21:26 PMhttps://www.noisextra.com/2023/11/29/early-lexington-noise-shows/
QuoteIt's been referenced many times throughout the years on Noisextra, especially on our recent Skin Crime episode, so we felt it was time to finally discuss the "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" VHS. "Huck Finn" documents the 1997 tour featuring the Haters, Emil Beaulieau, the Haters, Skin Crime, Crank Sturgeon, and Angst Hase Pfeffer Nase. It's an absolute classic VHS and we got some inside info from some participants. Get lost on the back roads with us and "Huck Finn."

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Ron Lessard granted us permission to put up the entire VHS. Head over to the Noisextra patreon to view in full!


https://www.noisextra.com/2023/12/06/adventures-of-huckleberry-finn-vhs/

There are so many similar stories with mine. Getting VHS from RRR first, that happened before internet, before seeing photos of anyone... and asking who are you in this VHS and RRRon writes "I'm the one with bald spot", haha..  Noise in era when that wasn't describing half of the guys...
Listening the discussion revolving around the video, makes one think that documenting noise shows these days could indeed have little bits of off-stage things.



I may have to contribute to the Patreon to watch this as I don't have a VHS anymore unless Ron has it for sale on DVD?

FreakAnimalFinland

I don't think dvd exists, but when someone actually digitizes it, could have been good to do dvd.

https://www.noisextra.com/2023/12/13/various-artists-excelsis-a-dark-noel/
QuoteThe season's bells were ringing for us to cover the classic Projekt Records compilation "Excelsis: A Dark Noel." The original dark Christmas comp, it ranges from ambient and abstraction to more traditional takes on holiday classics.

Label that I do not have that much stuff. It is curious thing that back in the day, label would make huge pressing and item would be available so widely that people who normally are not exposed, could be. Like in Finland, for reason or another, there was a lot of Extreme label various artists CD "Untitled (ten)". Back in late 90's you could find it in Anttila discount bins for like less than 1 euro/1 usd. Merzbow and bunch of others on it. Who knows how much was pressed and why they were masses of them among cut-outs & overstocks, but I know for fact that some guys first heard real noise by randomly picking up this CD from supermarket.. I am sue Excelsis..... comp on Projekt may have exposed countless people to Arcana, Autopsia, Attrition etc.. Not exactly noise, though.



https://www.noisextra.com/2023/12/20/zoviet-france-gris/
QuoteThe decision was made to leave the house and look for inspiration. What transpired was the discovery of a 10″ by a very important historical project — "Gris" by :zoviet-france:. It was a sign to dig deep into the band, one that Mike and Tara are admittedly not insanely familiar with. So come along on our journey in discovering this fantastic 10″ and diving into :zoviet-france:.

Tara and Mike doing episode without Greh. Not talking only about this 10", but a lot of other things.
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