NOISEXTRA - A podcast about noise

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, May 31, 2019, 12:16:12 PM

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Bigsby

new one is interview w/ author Thomas Moore.  His explanation of his process is so lucid! He speaks of writing a lot of source material, then scavenging it for the jewels in the mud. He talks of feeling shapes in the dark. Greh & the Connellys instantly recognize it as their same process w/noise.

FreakAnimalFinland

Thomas Moore interview good. Noisextra guys been mentioning they'd like to do more of this type of not exactly noise maker, but somehow related. Perhaps more exciting is when it happens somewhere else than "noise scene", so you see like semi-mainstream character who acknowledges noise, and even if one would not need or want outside approval or some sort of validation, there is something when you see like.. Keanu Reeves with Chrondritic Sound LP release in his "what's in your bag", hah.. Or Zizek talking about Laibach and so on and on.

New episode is Mike & Tara discussing BDN, but many more. Name dropping artists that has been on playlist, little talk about them etc. Didn't realize Makita had returned doing noise/pe!

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/06/26/necrose-prison/
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FreakAnimalFinland

#287
hmm... where I have been couple of weeks? Don't even remember that In the Studio with Sonambule episode came out. Got to check that soon.

Yesterday listened:
https://www.noisextra.com/2024/07/10/in-conversation-with-murderous-vision/

M.V. celebrates 30 years of activities and published book about project. I suppose european people will have euro edition coming later on and hoping to see it then! There is new tape of his on Hospital Productions and probably latest recordings found from Freak Animal International vol 3 CD (free with orders at the moment!). Stephen Petrus is good talked, good tone on voice and clarity, good recording too despite being done over internet. Stories of new and old things.

I just talked with one Finn earlier this week who mentioned that when MV played in Europe, there was actually people from USA flying over to see him play. This is curious element that in genre where you may have artists who can bring audience of couple dozens or couple hundred... that audience may be fanatical enough to travel across the world to see it.

When MV played in Finland, it was like.. was it sunday or monday evening in Kontti? Not very easy time of year nor day to play, but there was decent audience who came to see it!
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https://www.noisextra.com/2024/07/03/in-the-studio-with-sonambule/

This was files ad "loose discussions" category, yet it has quite many good points being made. Talk about home recording vs studio dedicated to having gear out & available. Or difficulties of running distro from tiny storage unit/flat, vs being able to organize things and print shipping papers, have mailers and boxes and such.
Many times things just evolve step by step, and eventually realizing things ain't working out. I am pretty much sure that if I'd even move into bigger physical store space, I'd be sighing "I should have done this decade ago".

You get to hear Sonambule recording methods, but also Greh and Mike are talking about their works.
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HateSermon

It's good to hear the pros and cons of shared studio space as opposed to home setup. I've never had an external place to rehearse/record at and I've considered renting a studio but I simply can't afford it. Even if the rent is split with others. Having a designated spot in my basement where it's just flip a switch and it's go-time has done wonders for my creative output. It also helps that I don't have roommates (other than wife) so not there's much concern with totally blasting junk noise and pissing anyone off.
"Power in being stupid" made me laugh but it's totally true. Often times the boneheaded approach to recording is the best way and overthinking something can take away from the spirit of the sound. I've scrapped so many recordings that were meticulously crafted because, at the end of the day, shit just doesn't sound the same as the stuff that was straight-to-tape with it's happy accidents and other nuances.
First time hearing Sonambule but I dig it. All three releases are on spotify which is convenient for listening at work.

FreakAnimalFinland

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/08/14/noise-intent/
QuoteMike and Tara have another loose noise discussion for today's episode. Topics include the second Death Squad book, the "RRR 5th Anniversary Box Set Thing," a recently-scored Seka skin mag, and more!

Seka mag would be great to see! DS book and RRR 5th Anniversary box, and plenty of topics they discuss is very relatable, so episode is good backing chatter for wrapping up orders and listening them talk about noise.

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/08/21/in-conversation-with-ross-synder-of-saturns-core/
QuoteToday we take another look at the "extra" of Noisextra with Ross Snyder of the Saturn's Core movie label. The movies that Saturn's Core release run parallel to the DIY noise underground of yore... in this case it's the DIY shot-on-video homemade movie underground of the 90s. Home dubbed tapes, zines, mail order, and regional scenes all come into play with Ross's story. It's a great discussion on a world that may not be familiar to some listeners, but well worth visiting.

I have this love-hate relationship with movies. I don't watch that much, but I like the idea of odd transgressive movies, hah. This shot on video scene is something I am of course aware of, but its cultural significance and how it blossomed back then, I am not expert at all. The whole era of "local movies",  and VHS stores filled with this total underground stuff next to big company films creating unusual situation where people could end up checking out these things in different way than they do now.
Toxic Avenger must be one of those "generation things", that just about everybody seen that, but even most of other Troma stuff, I doubt there was much of it available in Finland, unless in couple very specialized cult video stores.
Very interesting is the strangulation video scene and all that stuff that basically just revolves around odd fetishes, but are not pornography.
I remember people with video store experience mention there was people like... getting pile of films that would include Pippi Longstockings, Pretty Baby, Maladolescenza... and it's like "hey dude! what's up...".  In this episode they mention less harmful things like customer who seek movies with women wearing pink socks, hah..
Normally, movie themes podcast, I tend to avoid, but this was very good! It dives so deep in underground video culture, that there is indeed similarity to noise culture.
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FreakAnimalFinland

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/08/28/august-noise/
casual discussions

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/09/04/in-conversation-with-steve-meketa-lockweld-apartment-213-meketa-power-electronics/
commented this earlier on Power Electronics and faith -type of topic. Good interview and Steve is so urgent to talk, they barely need to ask much, and he talks in length!

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/09/11/greh-returns/
Greh has been pretty quiet and returns back. Funny that they mention people did notice his voice being different in couple episodes. Indeed! Was thinking what is this sugardaddy voice he is doing now. Hoarse low-pitched, hah... Turns out it was result of the tech problems he has been having. Episode talks little bit of that, little bit of other things, some noise related, but more about movies they've been watching.



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HateSermon

Good episode with Crystal who owns Nooners Books, an online bookstore based in LA. First time I've heard about Nooners was from the Noisextra where Mike and Tara briefly mention them (Aug 14th episode) so I'm glad they decided to do a full episode on it. I found it oddly familiar with how she amassed her collection and a similar story, which I wrote about it here before, about an old bookstore guy retiring and leaving behind piles of porn with no destination. Awkward phone call asking for "sensitive materials" and then arranging a meetup to go through it. It becomes a burden for someone who's not into that kind of stuff so typically it all ends up in the trash. Or they get wise to it and try to sell them for collector's prices, but just because you can sell the magazines for that much doesn't mean you will. Nowadays most of my purchasing is done online but when you strike gold at a local shop or flea market it's a great feeling.
She makes an interesting point about people buying analog media so they feel grounded or connected to something real. This is especially true for the world of porn when so much of it is online and digital. Identity through media and the communities that exist, in real life, because of that.

FreakAnimalFinland

It is curious business. Still today, I have XXX section in my store, and there are people who buy DVD, but sometimes VHS and magazines. Store is too small to have all this stuff properly on display.
Northern Europe is curious thing, since Sweden and Denmark were notorious for "anything goes" policy from late 60's onward till 80's and for most part legal situation pretty free. Norway and Finland were entire different deal, where anything "for adults" was monitored and forbidden. Regular hc porn was illegal here till late 90's. It created amusing situation, that if its all illegal, so what the hell, you might just sell beastiality and scat videos, since they are not really giving you more trouble than regular fuck flicks. So eventually when they legalized regular hc, suddenly a lot of stores felt necessity to clean up. It was golden years for buying stuff. Since knowing a lot of guys who operate shops, I could walk into store pile car full of nastiest vhs tapes out there. Price tags may have been 40, 50, 70, 90 euros and I could just grab anything, usually for 5 euro each. Also few situations where shop owner told me in advance that he is quitting, and will file being bankrupt, so last day I can come and take anything cash deal, dirt cheap, next to nothing, since all the inventory will be left behind after that.
During those years, when there was huge network of physical shops, but they were run by older folks who didnt have known how for importing stuff, I would order things or visit suppliers in European countries and buy the "grey zone" smut many would sell under the counter, but didnt have guts to import. There is basically one thing nobody touches, but rest is grey zone. Did run into trouble with law enforcement who didnt like the stuff they found. Pretty funny story after all, but cant be told in way that the amusing qualities would not look a bit shady in current world, hah..
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Birthdeath

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 21, 2024, 11:13:51 PMDuring those years, when there was huge network of physical shops, but they were run by older folks who didnt have known how for importing stuff, I would order things or visit suppliers in European countries and buy the "grey zone" smut many would sell under the counter, but didnt have guts to import. There is basically one thing nobody touches, but rest is grey zone. Did run into trouble with law enforcement who didnt like the stuff they found. Pretty funny story after all, but cant be told in way that the amusing qualities would not look a bit shady in current world, hah..

Would definitely want to hear more about this!

FreakAnimalFinland

Maybe one day there is good moment for that.

Talking of good moments, new Noisextra episode is about new documentary on the life of Genesis P-Orridge. They mention that didn't want to the kind of typical music documentary where method is lining up bunch of well known people to talk about how great and innovative someone was. Instead, it is focusing on GPO's own interview material and archives. Some closest people are featured, and daughters. Of course one could think is GPO's own words how reliable testament of his life? For example reading the Cosey's book, it shows a lot of things in very very different light. Of course, doesn't mean that neither of the testimonies would be really "true" or "false", just how things felt by those who were living it their personal experience and memory trace of it all. In case of GPO, there is this quite self conscious element to it. As example, there are archives of phone conversations. Huge amount of recordings that collects phone conversations that was made. Mentioning that if it was like talking with Burroughs, could be interesting stuff, but then there are just whatever daily life calls there. Seems so alien idea to revolve so much inside your own life, that self documentation becomes obsessive? Its does make one wonder if the necessity of documentation starts to direct life itself. As example, that The Rita interview where Sam mentions something like the moment of being on top of mountain, and thought of "having picture to IG" pops into mind and was it making of some field recordings, but also instantly following the stronger idea that this is for me, only. Am I here presenting others something, or experiencing something for myself. Indeed. I have very often wondered the nearly pathological need of some artists to update CV with smallest things they do. Of course, it may be for some part of the art itself.

Haven't seen the documentary, obviously, maybe some day. In Lahti there is alternative theatre that screened Borbetomagus document, and Finnish noise documentary too years ago. Lots of Herzog documentaries etc, so maybe got to make inquiries if they have any plans for this.

Good episode!

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/09/25/in-conversation-with-david-charles-rodrigues-s-he-is-still-her-e/

QuoteWe are joined today by David Charles Rodrigues, director of "S/he is Still Her/e", the new documentary on the life of Genesis P-Orridge. Additionally, Ryan Martin (Dais Records) joins as guest/co host to give his perspective and background on working with Genesis for over a decade. We discuss the process of putting together the documentary, how it came together and how Genesis affected their lives. Short circuit control.

For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, we get into the incident that lead Gen and his family leaving the UK, Gen's family life and more. This 15 minute segment is in the middle of the episode on the patreon feed.
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Andrew McIntosh

So GPO was the Andy Warhol of Industrial. It all makes sense now.
Shikata ga nai.

FreakAnimalFinland

This time there is actually video Noisextra. 666 Volt Battery Noise cd box unboxing video, hah! Internet is full of unboxing videos and not needing much of that, but this episode has about half of Hospital Productions showing, not the "unboxing", but actually the behind the scenes type of footage. You get to hear the story behind this release, and not only that but see all sorts of original materials, master tapes, gig poster, mockup copy of booklet, how carefully all things been designed, how this box was worked with blessing and help of artists family and so on. Even if video is uploaded at patreon site, it is there free for everybody, don't need to be paying member.
https://www.noisextra.com/2024/10/02/666-volt-battery-noise/
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FreakAnimalFinland

Pretty relaxed and casual talk with Karmanik! You get mostly info you already probably know, but there are also new things. Like finally doing solo live. Having urge to do new stuff. etc.

https://www.noisextra.com/2024/10/09/in-conversation-with-roger-karmanik-brighter-death-now-lille-roger-cold-meat-industry/
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F.L.A.W. Fest / Ohio Report
QuoteGreh is back from his noise adventure and is here to tell us all about it. He attended the F.L.A.W. Fest and also played an after show as Black Sand Desert. He gives us a full rundown of his entire trip and gives his thoughts on just about every set.
For the ExtraNoisextra segment on the patreon, Greh tell us about all the noise he's been listening to.
https://www.noisextra.com/2024/10/23/f-l-a-w-fest-ohio-report/


Connellys have a bit trouble to tone down their enthusiasm to talk on podcast, and let Greh tell about his trip to the FLAW fest, hah! Not bad, though, just funny that suddenly Mike & Tara have been talking about fest bands and line-up and... "oh.. maybe we should let Greh talk, he was there" -type of situation.

As huge as this fest seemed (judging on bandlisting, the names and the numbers), it is curious that without following IG, I didn't even have idea it was happening. I was talking with some Finn noiseheads who mentioned "I heard FLAW Fest went very nicely" and I was first thinking is it some sort of Flow fest spin off or something. Then seeing couple of comments on SI forum about it. I don't think I saw anything on S&W forum either. Of course, success of the fest displays he is doing the promotion right way and works, but I tend to think that besides aspect of promotion in terms of "selling tickets", there is something in the leaving mark in search-able public internet. IG stories come and go fast, and idea of monstrous fast paced harsh noise fest may be inspiring despite you would never travel across the world. Just seeing the idea, what if we'd do something like that over here?

Noisextra does good job in discussing a bit about artists, venue, how things were happening, days before, days after, meetings with people, or hanging out tiki bar and so on. Despite they are not at all analytic or go into details of the shows, you get the general vibe pretty nicely. You get the "noise folklore" type of elements there, little nuggets of info what may sound better in stories than even being there, hah.

I would be curious could it be done in Finland, is someone would decide, what if doing 10x10 NOISE FEST... 10 artist, each doing 10. Chunks of 2-3 artists playing with perhaps merely 5 min breaks and then having time to clean up the stage for next bunch of 2-3 artists. I would guess it would be doable, and perhaps with changes, 3 hours thing. Like these FLAW fest reports mentioning that night started at 8 and was done about midnight. That is fast. Perhaps even 15x15 FEST would be doable.
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