WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

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FreakAnimalFinland

Nice interview. It is curious how so many are drawn to do the "same experiments" so to say. Like the glue records, feedback loops, tape loops, without knowing there is a "scene" for stuff like this, but just going for it. In Special Interests #16 there is interview with old Polish industrial artist who also mentions how a lot of early works was just technical experiments, rather than music.
Curiously some months ago got big pile of second hand Integrity albums to my store and listened quite many of them when deciding if there is something I need to keep and what to sell. Most went for sale. With this type of metallic hardcore, there is very limited amount of stuff I need for my own shelves, but have been listening a lot of them recently.
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Out now on WCN TV: We're back for an AFTERBLAST with Eddie Giles Southgate of the infamous FINAL SOLUTION, now active with a myriad of projects such as DEFECTIVE, UNKNOWN HIERARCHY, and WALLMART. It's been over 2 years since his first appearance on WCN Podcast, so it was great to catch up and hear what's been on Eddie's mind and going on in his world.

2.5 hour episode in video and audio version now on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
Preview: https://youtu.be/7BcuzKM6JP4
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

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OUT NOW - Max Julian Eastman of Tribe Tapes on WCN Podcast!

Over the past several years, Max Eastman's Tribe Tapes has risen as one of the most interesting labels in the international noise scene, reissuing obscure gems of 80s and 90s cassette culture with passionate personal curation, as well as working with a circle of contemporary artists that carry on that same wild spirit. Max also records primitive tape noise under his own name, TANTRIC DEATH, and a number of collaborative projects. He will be on tour in Finland this November, playing Helsinki November 6, Tampere November 8 and Turku November 9. Follow Max at https://www.instagram.com/tribe.tapes/

In the full version on Patreon, we discuss his connection to Finland, domestic noise, audio letters, Jon Olson, releasing VHS, the label Oxidation, Purveyors Arm of Distribution, releasing a tape packaged in a Mcdonalds cheeseburger, his top 5 dub records, and much more. Premium subscribers can download a zipfile of audio visual ephemera that Max put together to share.

Part 1
https://youtu.be/w14yoZk9Uno?si=hcdasB03Wc45OG8Z

Full episode
Video: https://www.patreon.com/posts/max-eastman-of-112596385
Audio: https://www.patreon.com/posts/audio-version-of-112596578
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

FreakAnimalFinland

Good stuff.
Indeed, I suppose the instant feedback coming (or not coming) these days seems to have strongly influenced the pace of how people expect or hope reactions for their stuff. I have talked with plenty of people who barely know there is also the other way to do things. Like selling edition of 200 for 10 years. Or that there is zero visible praise, but it is not sign of lack of success. Might be even route to actually having some sort of "constant presence" out there. Not in form of spamming, being visible everywhere and hyped, but just kind of... always there, working in own pace and style.

I have had discussions with artists, who have felt that just because their stuff is cheap at the discogs, its sign that "nobody wants it" and therefore further (re-)releases won't be happening. It is odd. Who cares if there are 5 copies at discogs for sale and nobody has grabbed them? Sometimes it makes me wonder how "big" discogs market place is. Thinking concrete examples, easy to pick WCN titles: since Treriksröset Sexregler came out (just recently), seems like it sold 2 copies at discogs. Dead Body Love CD 25 copies.TNB cd about the same. A lot of other items sell way way less. You can see that every dealer got it for sale, and discogs history shows 5-30 being sold ever. Which can be amount one bigger UG distro moves alone. Genocide Organ new 2xCD, I probably sold more than all discogs copies together. Even now 10 copies available over there, but I had no hesitation to stock 10 more for myself couple weeks ago. Sometimes I do wonder the weight that is given to "discogs" as measure of... rarity, price, how wanted things are, and so on. New item market and long out of print item market are so different thing. Even repressing something that is plenty available in 2nd hand market, may sometimes be good idea.
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PSYWARRIOR84

Very interesting insights and much appreciated! I have been sending out free promotional CDs, which I sent a package to Freak Animal from USA that is stuck in customs. I also give out CDs at shows and record stores; No Bandcamp nor discogs. I think this approach makes the connection deeper with the ones that my material reaches. I never intended on making any money from music, I just want people to hear it if they are inclined to listen, much like how Eddie described RRR.

FreakAnimalFinland

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I would suppose every EU country now holds any letter or package that comes outside EU. Either get it clarified as gift, that is cheap enough to not need to pay taxes. Or you just pay the import tax and VAT. Couple years ago they removed the "cheap value items for free" -deal, since so much cheap chinese stuff was flooding in, causing more losses than profit for postal system.
So even if sender would have marked its free gift, it goes to customs system that one needs to do the "paperwork" (online). Potentially pay the taxes and handling fees.

This is one thing that makes a lot of discogs purchases difficult. Even if there would be original release somewhere out there, its possible item price is very fair, yet seller may not ship overseas. If does, postage may be insane. Besides postage one would have to do import paperwork online, pay for taxes and handling fees that are pure extortion in some of countries. I recall in Belgium it was like 15 euro extra fee? Over here merely 3,10 euro per shipment after taxes, if comes via post. Couriers may ask more.  So thinking that couple sellers have old pressing of release still in stock, one may still want that someone in EU would have it in mailorder. Not to mention discogs is also paypal only. I know still quite many people who do not have paypal. Some never had, some were kicked out and not allowed to get new one.  So all this said, its sometimes quite funny to hear artists who is bitter or hopeless for items not selling out and being "seemingly wanted", when there is situation that even if you want it and it is out there, it is not like you could just buy it, if conditions are suddenly mean that even if sellers would take the order, that "cheap 10usd cd" would cost you 50 euro. Then you might just buy the other CD's you have available in distro you buy from. This type of thing never really "registers". Is there demand? Who would want certain new or old album? I feel it's sort of labels job to give it a try. Any opportunist can jump into trend of reissuing the hot and wanted. Good labels put out what they like, regardless is there visible "demand". That is one great thing about TRIBE TAPES. You look at the discography, and indeed, Randy Greif etc.. its great stuff, but unlikely to be "lets collect the cash from fans" -type of reissue, hah.

I know there is, and been also doing that, one element of self made releases, that it is a bit of challenge, a tiny element of testing who put the leg work in getting item. That is fine, but to me it appears a bit odd when it may manifest itself in a way that you need credit card, sign up into various systems, sign up into government databases to able to even receive orders etc. (Not to mention that if label or artists idea of this "leg work" is that everything revolves around them, and not some sort of dialogue and interaction.)
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PSYWARRIOR84

That is very interesting, I've shipped small orders of tapes and CDs to France, Australia, and Norway but only encountered this system you described from Finland. Perhaps it's the Final Solution to stop business with China.

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Out now on WCN TV: Listener Reviews
Sincere thanks and respect to Harrison Phillis, Kenny Geiger, Joe Wang, Nick Gibas, and Jean-Baptiste Lévêque for their brave contributions.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/listener-reviews-113071078
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

PSYWARRIOR84

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I enjoyed this episode and the concept because it's an interesting way of bringing the listener's experience to the forefront.

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OUT NOW - Jackson Kovalchik aka JHK
Jackson Kovalchik is New York's premier noise sound guy. With his roots in DIY and mastery of professional sound technology, Jackson has made a name for himself over the past several years by delivering immaculate and punishingly loud sound at live events in pro music halls and and underground spaces across the city. Jackson also makes noise as JHK, with recent releases on Oxen and Dead Gods, and plays in a number of gorenoise and grindcore projects. Though I still haven't had the pleasure to attend a show he's working, it was great to meet virtually and learn about his craft. This episode is co-hosted by a couple very special guests!

Thank you to the Patreon supporters who make this show possible!

Part 1
https://youtu.be/0Ch4o_ieXhM

Full Episode
Video: https://www.patreon.com/posts/jackson-of-jhk-113527900
Audio: https://www.patreon.com/posts/audio-version-of-113528320
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/