WHITE CENTIPEDE NOISE PODCAST

Started by WCN, October 18, 2021, 11:45:20 PM

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Bigsby

Noise on the run extends this convo about percussion & noise in terms of sound rather than skill or musicianship or any of that.  He  shares thoughts on what sounds like an obnoxious impregnable set at end tymes & J. Olson's snarky memes.

Also, sounds like the German cops are harassing Oscar & his Polish plates. 😂

WCN

OUT NOW! Ken Geiger of DEAD DOOR UNIT on White Centipede Noise Podcast
https://youtu.be/-RGgzbn3TO8?si=VDz4HKFSEHak-KC4

Ken Geiger is a kingpin of the thriving East Coast American noise scene, particularly that of New Jersey - one that unites young blood and veterans in an attitude of unpretentious sincerity. His prolific fried electronics project DEAD DOOR UNIT uniquely recalls classic midwest creeper noise, and he is just as active with over a dozen more collabs and side projects. He also runs French Market Press, a label releasing noise from his milieu in oversized handmade packaging in very small editions. In this interview, Ken fills me in on his story, how he sees things, and what's going on in his world. Watch the full 2 hour version at https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

FreakAnimalFinland

Really funny start for episode when first thing Ken says "When I got your message, I was like fuck yeah! he has run out of people!" haha..

I was listening episode with looking at it even info who is being interviewed, thinking I'll find out at some point. When they talk about label, I was always thinking it is "Fringe Market", not "French Market" like I just realized it is!

Episode has lots of good pointers, you might not hear so frequently. Being guy who puts of items in edition of.. 6? But also has reasons for it. It is always good reminder how noise can be so many things, and some people may not be making noise with attempt to mass produce items for sale. His challenges idea that anyone should hear everything from some artists, asking why so? Indeed, sometimes the completist urge or even fanaticism to get it all doesn't make sense if material is something else than we have used in music culture. It's not like you would collect everything from sculptor or painter. You may appreciate, you can see what you can, you may even own something.. but noise release can be so different from idea of "music bands studio album", that it makes no sense to get them all, even if they would be great.

They also talk about the changing moment, when after years of.. sucking.. then there comes a moment when you suddenly start to feel confident of your own stuff. Knowing, it does not suck, but is actually pretty damn good, and also feedback from people changes. Suddenly some are actually are interested. There is quite funny moment when Ken mentions that he is not a psychopath, so obviously not really listening to his own old releases.

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FreakAnimalFinland

As addition:
Forgot to mention, that notion about "doing it other ways" was just mentioned as in playlist topic I was wondering about how come labels do not keep their best stuff available and try to arrange distribution and so on. Of course, only reply could by merely asking why one should? I can think number of reasons, but when Ken talks about his way of doing things and how with two jobs, he is not really interested to have mailing obligations waiting and people crying where are their shipments.
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Heppakirjat

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 26, 2024, 03:19:35 PMIt is always good reminder how noise can be so many things, and some people may not be making noise with attempt to mass produce items for sale.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 26, 2024, 03:19:35 PMThere is quite funny moment when Ken mentions that he is not a psychopath, so obviously not really listening to his own old releases.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember Violent Shogun saying something like 50 % of music he listens to is his own. And it´s not an ego trip or something like that, but a simple fact that he makes music he wants to hear. I have been recording sound for over 20 years and until recently never really released anything. Except for private tapes dubbed for friends or special occasions etc. Until now I always felt content with just making stuff for myself. It´s a bit funny because I've been pestering my brother to put out some stuff since forever, but he still seems mostly interested in just "listening to his modular and gear" by himself. I think it is nuts, because he conjures some proper sound magick, but who am I to judge.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 26, 2024, 03:19:35 PMHis challenges idea that anyone should hear everything from some artists, asking why so? Indeed, sometimes the completist urge or even fanaticism to get it all doesn't make sense if material is something else than we have used in music culture. It's not like you would collect everything from sculptor or painter.

Indeed it might be worth noting, that hardly no art enthusiast would hang a photocopy on their wall, but any noise enthusiast is probably content with a duplicated tape! I am not well versed in the high arts (or low for that matter), but I would imagine there has to be sound artists that make one art piece and then the only way to hear it is in a museum or at the home of someone who bought the tape (for an exorbitant amount of silver & gold of course)?

FreakAnimalFinland

Most of the museum "sound installations" are exactly that, not intended to be "music album", but it is art form of its own and often there may be visuals or some element of space involved besides sound itself. I don't know if NFT's are still popular, but for a while it was being talked all the fucking time and it also applied for sound. Artists would be selling digital certificate that file you own, is authentic. hah.. Haven't heard NFT mentioned for a while, but would assume there are art collectors with certified authentic sound files. pfff...
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WCN

Been taking the month off the podcast to take care of some things, but I've unlocked some Patreon content in the meantime.

TRERIKSRÖSET AFTERBLAST: https://youtu.be/iOsx7ME-pzk?si=45WLkY2SPm63YPyz

THE RITA AFTERBLAST: https://youtu.be/AwIVw_fZhic?si=7zMjzggjpYnsSYdg

Will be back with a vengeance in August. As always, your support via Patreon is needed and highly appreciated. https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
Harsh Noise label and EU based distro of American Imports
https://whitecentipedenoise.com/

FreakAnimalFinland

https://youtu.be/iOsx7ME-pzk?si=_Ew_xz4SQpddmMF2

WCN apparently on summer holiday, but posting some older patreons only afterblast episodes. Didn't notice them as wasn't announced here and they also did not appear in his youtube channel top of the list, unless clicking all way through to channel new videos and then noticed there was week ago Treriksröset / Tommy C afterblast, and right now The Rita afterblast just premiering.

Tommy afterblast could be even better than the "original episode"? Oskar mentions that it was so early episode, he wasn't very confident interviewer at that moment. Even if this interview is couple years old already, nothing really out-dated with exception of gig announcement at very end of video, but otherwise pretty timeless material.

Relaxed chat covers some "scene ethnics", tape dublication, tape releases in general, advices, suggestions, talk about limited items, batches with filler releases, people ripping off customers etc.

It is funny that both agree that people should be more vocal about being ripped off and expose names so others can beware.. yep, but then at the same time neither really wants to drop any names and this hesitation is pretty much valid. Many times, it doesn't appear to be malicious intent, more like incompetence, difficult situations in life and so on. Even I got some folks owing me hundreds of euros for long time, and I am not really hugely interested to throw dirt in public. Even if deserved. Basically more like assuming situations may be resolved later on. Most of the time, one tends to either hear, or have experiences with guys who have trouble shipping stuff out, and I personally have merely decided long ago that I prefer never to send them orders. If I get stuff elsewhere, fine. If I don't, I'll survive. It's not like I absolutely NEED particular tape or shirt so much. There is always more options to purchase or trade, than one has time to listen to.

This is actually something that has been quite positive think to consider. Even for distributors point of view. If artists or label is NOT a rip off, but just tend to be slow to point of energy consuming, no problem to stop even trying to get such material. Simply because such slowness is kind of contagious: Having multiple deals dragging, quickly leads that one looks into email inbox feeling should I re-send that email, will I have to re-read all the communication to see what we've been working on, what is trade status and so on... and eventually realize some of these long delayed deals are actually something YOU should have completed. Just like you may have handful of releases under work and one release bending due bad communication, not getting artist to submit what he promised long long ago, and suddenly delays contagiously effect other things you should get done. Compilation waiting artists who don't bother say they can't get their stuff done. Etc
So one very good advice that I would say works both ways. If you can't get it done, just say so. Dropping out of comp when you know you can't deliver may be great news for label who doesn't have to wait in uncertainty and invites someone else.
And as a distributor, if you wanted to purchase something, and guy has trouble in getting emails replied in 3 months, I would guess you can easily take your business elsewhere. There is no shortage of labels worth to distro.
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MAGAZINE: http://www.special-interests.net
LABEL / DISTRIBUTION: FREAK ANIMAL http://www.nhfastore.net

FreakAnimalFinland

Oh, Oskar just posted while I was typing message above. So, link for The Rita there!
E-mail: fanimal +a+ cfprod,com
MAGAZINE: http://www.special-interests.net
LABEL / DISTRIBUTION: FREAK ANIMAL http://www.nhfastore.net