TRUE CRIME & RELATED

Started by tiny_tove, February 23, 2010, 03:24:01 PM

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Invisible War

Not sure if I should include this here or in the documentaries thread, but this seems more applicable.

I've always enjoyed James Ellroy's personality and work. An intense analysis of his own psyche and into the minds of LAPD detectives in general.

Feast of Death

"LA CONFIDENTIAL author James Ellroy surfs the death vibe from the Dallas assassination site of US President John F. Kennedy to the Hollywood intersection where Black Dahlia Elizabeth Short's mutilated corpse was dumped in 1948.

Part procedural, part confessional, FEAST OF DEATH is an uncensored carnival ride through Ellroy's dark places, conducted in fearless fashion by a teenage sneak thief turned celebrated author of crime books written in blood, seminal fluid and napalm.

See Ellroy return to the location of his mother's 1958 rape and murder, which continues to haunt the Demon Dog of American crime fiction 50 years after the fact.

See Ellroy on a profane trip down memory lane to the scenes of his boyhood crimes and misdemeanors.

See Ellroy in skull sessions with LAPD cops and journalists as they name a suspect in the unsolved Black Dahlia case.

A hit at the 2001 Toronto Film Festival, FEAST OF DEATH was directed by Vikram Jayanti (producer of WHEN WE WERE KINGS, 1997 Academy Award® for Best Documentary ) and features an evocative score by Rob Lane (AILEEN: LIFE AND DEATH OF A SERIAL KILLER)."

http://www.amazon.com/James-Ellroys-Feast-Death-Ellroy/dp/B0010X7478
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0333445/

RyanWreck

#496
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2012, 08:43:37 PM
The closer you are to whomever or whatever, the more you'll feel.

Just 7 months ago (April 2nd) my fiance who I had been with for over 7 years died, so I definitely understand what you are saying here. I'm still fucked up about it, moving from denial as if she somehow faked it all and being completely "meh" numb. But even at my worst this event hasn't changed my views about anything, and I still cannot relate to 95% of the people I see on the media talking about their loved ones who died. Sometimes I feel like I may have some type of psychological problems when I compare myself to these people who are blubbering and crying on T.V. about their 4 year old kids, and I was extremely close to someone for over 7 years and I don't feel like I have the same emotional responses they do. It's odd to me. A grief counselor friend of my family was saying that there could have been a break from something like PTSD and when trying to deny my emotions it made me non-empathetic to anything now, but I don't really believe that shit since I still have other strong emotions. Who fucking knows. It has made me very bitter though, especially towards people who want to complain about breaking up with their significant other, or not being able to pay a water bill on time, I seriously want to kill those people. I'm jealous that I don't just have their problems.

FreakAnimalFinland

There is something quite morbid in those people who choose to go cry on cameras. What exactly they could achieve? I saw clip in news of some father crying after 5 year old daughter who had been shot. It was repulsive sight. From perspective of media as well as willing people to get their face on TV.
Dislike towards modern media is something I can relate to. Wouldn't mind seeing trash journalist getting what they deserve.
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bitewerksMTB

If you don't break down and cry & screech that your life is over, then you're simply not normal. Over-reaction is the new normal. Even better if you need to be medicated because you're nervous about everyday, mundane crap.

Back to true crime. I had never heard of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_school_massacre

A flamethrower, a mace, & a spear! Almost better than a Model T loaded with rusted farm machinery & TNT.

Mikerdeath

With regards to the child shootings, I appreciate and identify with Freak Animal's comments.
What do they have to prove or establish by parading themselves in front of the television cameras?
And then week later the community comes out with its "intolerance" towards the media presence.
Which is it that that value more, coverage or privacy?

RyanWreck

#500
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
If you don't break down and cry & screech that your life is over, then you're simply not normal. Over-reaction is the new normal. Even better if you need to be medicated because you're nervous about everyday, mundane crap.

Yea, and it seems as though people are far weaker and complaisant now-a-days. Look back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine. Now everyone thinks it is OK to kumbaya and thoroughly bring their emotions to the forefront to just cry it out. As if they should embrace their drawbacks and heartbreaks, being fine with playing a victim. And as I had said, it seems as though the worlds outlook has changed so much since WWII. I would never see my Grandfather cry, never see him claim "PTSD", he would never even talk about it. Same with my Uncle who watched his brother die in Croatia or my Father even, who was abused as a child. It's all shit.

Quote from: MikerdeathWhat do they have to prove or establish by parading themselves in front of the television cameras?

Sympathy and attention. It gets far worse from that point on when they seemingly dedicate their entire existence to that one specific event.

Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.

No.
Shikata ga nai.

martialgodmask

Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 22, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.

No.

Agreed. Sorry Ryan, but that's a massive generalisation brush you've just swept.

bitewerksMTB

#503
People from WWII came back fucked up (cpl of my grandfather's brothers who I did not know were in  WWII & were later gambling drunks. Not sure if it was related; my G-father wasn't in the military & didn't drink), some just dealt with it better. Or it could be, you just HEAR less about it. Our grandparents lived much harder lives & they just had to do whatever it was that needed to be done. Today, you don't hear about the success stories, just how bad everything is or how unfair it all is.

Are the people in Newtown complaining about the media? Piers Morgan is squeezing as much as he can out of it!

RyanWreck

Quote from: martialgodmask on December 22, 2012, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 22, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.

No.

Agreed. Sorry Ryan, but that's a massive generalisation brush you've just swept.

Well I am sure there are handful's of vets from that era who do have problems, maybe I should have said that I had never meet any. I worked at the VA for 7 months and had meet a good hundred vets in that short time and there seemed to be an almost rival disconnect between the eras, especially the Vietnam guys and the really old men. The older men seem to keep their shit together and almost look down on counseling and such things. And maybe things differ in other countries, I surely haven't meet any Australian WW2 vets.

Andrew McIntosh

Same culture here for men of that generation who went to the war. Don't talk about it. Emphasise the good, de-emphasise the bad. That's how they coped. Those who didn't cope often went without any assistance at all and never talked about it, they just suffered silently. It strikes me more as a generational issue, and the advances made with psychology and therapy since the two world wars.

I've cared for WW2 vets at work and have seen the effect the war had on them. One man, at least, had to cry after there was a news report on the telly about the Iraq conflict, and one of the carers was spouting off about it. When I asked him what was wrong, all he could do was look at me and say "They don't know what war is". I couldn't answer him. He had been in Malaysia during the war and had visited Nagasaki afterwards. I could do nothing for him. And this was one of the more generally cheerful and lucid residents at work, who had no problem talking about his experiences. I think that there are moments for every former soldier when it becomes too fucking much.

In fact, the one US Vietnam vet I have met was pretty pleased to have been to that war. He had a denim vest with all the "Kill 'Em All" patches and the rest and was there to protest against an anti-Iraq war protest, holding up a big US flag. A friend's father was an Aus. veteran of the Vietnam conflict and he seemed pretty pleased about the whole affair as well. But that doesn't tell me that every soldier who was in Vietnam came back happy and satisfied.

In any case - people react to crisis and stress differently and there's no competition about it. The real issue with the shootings is the media coverage, and the fools who consume it like drugs. Fucking normal people love the misery of others and the media is only too happy to oblige.
Shikata ga nai.

Levas

Isn't it that overall times change people's physical and psychological capabilities. Nowadays people are weaker in both senses though perhaps more intelectual or so. Read any story about the injuries in WW2, scope of the medicine etc. and try to think about yourself in that soldier's etc. place. I don't know. These were at least my thoughts years ago when I had open fracture of the leg and tried to overcome the night without the anesthetics when the Ilisarov's apparatus was installed. I failed.

RyanWreck

#507
Anyone seen any updates on the hunt for the female child pornographer...

Quote

"The woman could live anywhere in the United States. She is depicted in several videos discovered in June during a child pornography investigation in Colorado.

The videos featured two young girls, estimated to be tween 3 and 7 years old, who were also featured in child pornography seized in Los Angeles in June 2011.

The material found in Colorado appears to be first time investigators could see an adult's face. A man who also is shown sexually abusing the girls digitally obscured his face in the material, making him unrecognizable.

The woman appears to be white, about 25 to 35 years old with a medium building, black to dark brown hair and blues eyes. She has a large mole on the back of her left thigh.

Several of the images were created in February 2010. The material depicts a home “which appears to be of typical North American construction found in several areas of the United States.”

The home has standard North American electrical switches. Agents noted two U.S. Army duffel bags, a U.S. Army poncho liner and U.S. Army desert boots in some of the image. Agents also observed a cardboard box with “Sunkist” written on it and a mattress with “Serta Perfect Sleep” written on it. The book “Animal Tracking Basics” by John Young and Tiffany Morgan is on a nightstand."


More...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186503/Call-U-S-public-help-identify-Jane-Doe-accused-abusing-young-girls-child-porn-case.html#ixzz23hTRph1g


There have been some screen caps of the 2 kids but I probably shouldn't post those even though they are not graphic. Maybe when they make their rounds on more legit new sites I will link them.

bitewerksMTB

Nothing involving Syria would be good for the Administration. There's no easy solution & it may make him look bad hence no focus.

I saw something on the news last wk or wk before about a woman having sex with a couple of 14 year old boys she met through her son but couldn't find anything online. I didn't see the entire report so details may be wrong. There seems to be more & more women involved with young boys these days.

I would think people putting illegal vids up would blur faces & anything that could identify people or location...

bitewerksMTB

#509
CNN did a poll of 620 people who 'want more gun control' but here's 52,000 would want Morgan GONE. That's kinda funny.

Did you look at all those petitions? Everything under the goddamn sun. They can barely get one thing done let alone stopping geNOcide of white people in other countries & they're definitely NOT going to suspend paycheck/benefits for Congress/President until they get this 'Cliff' business settled.