Hip hop / rap

Started by ImpulsyStetoskopu, June 09, 2012, 12:56:26 PM

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jesusfaggotchrist

Quote from: online prowler on July 05, 2012, 04:43:15 PM

The UK scene have in general been more raw and hardcore than for instance the US.

Here is some earlly '90s hardcore from - GUNSHOT - quite noisy and brutal in beats. This is

CRIME STORY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-AEl8rFeds&feature=related

fuck yea. more of this.

jesusfaggotchrist

Quote from: NEHPF on June 23, 2012, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: KMusselman on June 23, 2012, 01:45:13 AM
just waiting for the Country Music thread....

"just got home... my wife left me... i kicked the dog..."

hee-fuck'n-haw!  :-)

I'm all for a country thread. And since there was a thread about black metal, I don't see no problem with rap.

I don't like the NYC sound at all. Scratching and jazz funk samples don't do nothing for me. I like cheap keyboards and recorded on tape raps. Stories about gang banging, prison and petty crime. Home invasions, street robberies, rape, anti-social violence, teenage prostitution, territoriality, shootings, that's the stuff I want to hear about. Street and prison related black and chicano power without the socially conscious stuff.

Memphis is basically where I consider the best rap came in the nineties. Satanic imagery and lowlife stories. Very lo-fi production, recorded and shared on tapes. Cheesy horror movie soundtrack samples and crappy drum machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bWDAicn4A
196 Clique - Crucifix

http://youtu.be/Ws0Ju0BX6h8
Children Of The Corn - Hockey Mask

http://youtu.be/KwtjyP9Auiw
Nigga Creep, Mc Money and Gangsta Gold - I Just Need Yo Cheeze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEONoyjxeVA
DJ Sound - Fuck Being Nice

Also, the greatest Sacramento outsider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpZn9kXyBM
First Degree The DE "Man In Da Place"

And with the recent cannibal zombie hype, I want to remind you of Big Lurch and his PCP rampage on eating titties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikrYNFZblQ



this guy has the right idea.

jesusfaggotchrist

I'm referring to NEHPF of course. and there is good country and folk if you can find it.

jesusfaggotchrist

is there any old school Detroit late 80s/early 90s lo-fi cassette shit I should be aware of? the grimier and more fucked up the better.

pentd

#79
ok niggaz!! as axpa mentioned we put out a split 7" in late 2010 with ronskibiitti dudes. anyone givin a shit should pick it up, i have less than 10 left, with a bonus CDR

mp3 klip: http://www.umpio.com/mp3/umpioronskimainos1.mp3

ronskibiitti guys come from a punk background and had the *nerve* to *evolve* and they got tons of backstabbin bullshit from all directions. crossover this, whoring that.... by the time we did this 7" their sound was goin deeper into skweee territory, which is, as far as i know, intentionally retarded and hard funk influenced. i know absolutely zero bout that stuff. point being: they explore and expose, which is cooler than what most do. i certainly hope they dont start doin lame "musical" beats like so many.

i did a run of 60 tapes called dub electronix, in which i compiled the more rhythmic klonks i had recorded... personally i think it turned out cool and i should do another edition one day.. soon i'll have enough for vol.2. its fukin insane when the dub hits ya!! try it!!

laineen kasperi at his best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnqfq5vY5hI
but, as much as i respect his craft, he also has done lamer sounding stuff after these times. his tongue is sharp, but his beats got pretty generic. for creepy/inventive/wtf i recommend those KAUCAS and KUMMITUSORKESTERI  albums

but generally, as a phenomenon, hip hoppers blew it. they could have made it into a razor, instead they turned it to vaseline. dälek + public enemy kept their sound inspiringly dissonant and heavy.

and why the fuck they have to make it "musical" when theres tools to make it hard and obscure haha!!

also i once managed to pick up an amazing EP from russian rapper COMRADE. i know zero about this project except for this record. lo-fi and HARD hitting. even my russian friends whom i played it to agreed: exceptionally good. in case anyone cares: heres an old pack of vinyl rips from my shelves, included are 7"s by Comrade + early Stilluppsteypa, enjoy!!

damn, a huge spider just walked on my arm and is now staring at me from this keyboard!! (ö)

and fuk yea thanks for this GUNSHOT thing!!

Andrew McIntosh

http://www.freemuse.org/sw48402.asp

QuoteA court in the city of Osh, where violent ethnic clashes claimed hundreds of lives in 2010, has banned an Uzbek-language rap song for promoting separatism and inciting hatred between Kyrgyz and Uzbek people.

Two years after the ethnic clashes between Uzbek and Kyrgyz residents in the city of Osh in Kyrgyzstan, which saw around 420 people killed and over 2,000 injured, several Uzbek artists have been expressing their anger against the Kyrgyz community through their charged lyrics.

The Uzbek-language song 'Osh City Uzbek Mahala' ('Osh is an Uzbek Quarter') became increasingly popular in the city. The song was transmitted among locals mainly via mobile phones, allegedly insulting the Kyrgyz community.

"According to experts from Osh State University, the content of the song incites mutual hatred and animosity between people of Kyrgyz and Uzbek nationalities," the Prosecutor General's Office said in a statement on 2 August 2012: "Ideas and views expressed in the song propagate intolerance of one nationality by the other and contain elements of separatism," the statement said.

The court banned all dissemination of the song, including by internet.

Osh city police have said that they have identified the song's author. He is an ethnic Uzbek, originally from Kyrgyzstan and now a Russian citizen. He has not been named.

Singer exiled
Since June, there have been an increasing number of accusations of so-called 'hate speech' in the southern parts of Kyrgyzstan.

The latest rap song has a precedent. In 2010, Akram, an underground rapper from Tashkent, released an anti-Kyrgyz song on YouTube. Set against a backdrop of photos depicting the violence in Osh, sample lyrics include: "The whole world sees who you are...the whole world hates you."

Uzbek singer Yulduz Usmanova became popular and was embroiled in controversies after her song 'To the Kyrgyz' was criticised for alleged ethnicity-based lyrics. She was later sent to exile in Turkey after a fallout with the regime of Uzbek president Islam Karimov. Usmanova said afterwards that the song was from the bottom of her heart, but was released by mistake.

Allegedly in response to the provocative messages in Uzbek rap songs similar songs have been released by Kyrgyz artists, including Aaly Tutkuchev. Aaly Tutkuchev had also been responding by song to Usmanova, telling her that she was provoking hatred among ordinary people and perhaps that's why she was forced from her homeland. Tutkuchev's song was titled: 'Don't Spit into the Well That You Drink Water From'.
Shikata ga nai.

ConcreteMascara

maybe I mentioned him before, but SpaceGhostPurrp is different but good. reminds me of old Three 6 Mafia, which I love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw5DcuxpHYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQYTY95NBbk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t61D9bTjbtw
[death|trigger|impulse]

http://soundcloud.com/user-658220512

hsv

Maybe Russian rap is what one should keep an eye on..? I found Babangida pretty good... dark brooding stuff from Svetlogorsk, Belarus, wich apparently was the HIV/heroin capitol of eastern Europe in the 90's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9emE3iy_I
This song is called Swastika but apparently he is actually a stalinist.

Reprobate

New Death Grips. Released online for free, against the wishes of their label (Columbia/Epic)
Makes me think of Chopped and Screwed Bird Seed/Cruise-Era Whitehouse meets Tical-Era Method Man meets... fuck it. It's awesome.
So's the album cover.
No Love, Deep Web.
http://depositfiles.com/files/dc4iyh96h


linxtyx

Talking about Russian/Belorussian rap > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBxESnZRnX4
Rem Digga and Chemodan Klan. It is kindda strange gloomy rap with psychedelic touch, but the best things are texts, of course it will be a problem for most forum readers, but anyway it is worth listening.

p.s. the worst thing that the most horrible songs are uploaded to youtube.

Reprobate

Quote from: NEHPF on June 23, 2012, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: KMusselman on June 23, 2012, 01:45:13 AM
just waiting for the Country Music thread....

"just got home... my wife left me... i kicked the dog..."

hee-fuck'n-haw!  :-)

I'm all for a country thread. And since there was a thread about black metal, I don't see no problem with rap.

I don't like the NYC sound at all. Scratching and jazz funk samples don't do nothing for me. I like cheap keyboards and recorded on tape raps. Stories about gang banging, prison and petty crime. Home invasions, street robberies, rape, anti-social violence, teenage prostitution, territoriality, shootings, that's the stuff I want to hear about. Street and prison related black and chicano power without the socially conscious stuff.

Memphis is basically where I consider the best rap came in the nineties. Satanic imagery and lowlife stories. Very lo-fi production, recorded and shared on tapes. Cheesy horror movie soundtrack samples and crappy drum machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bWDAicn4A
196 Clique - Crucifix

http://youtu.be/Ws0Ju0BX6h8
Children Of The Corn - Hockey Mask

http://youtu.be/KwtjyP9Auiw
Nigga Creep, Mc Money and Gangsta Gold - I Just Need Yo Cheeze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEONoyjxeVA
DJ Sound - Fuck Being Nice

Also, the greatest Sacramento outsider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpZn9kXyBM
First Degree The DE "Man In Da Place"

And with the recent cannibal zombie hype, I want to remind you of Big Lurch and his PCP rampage on eating titties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikrYNFZblQ



Any link for that DJ Sound tape? Amazing track.

NEHPF

Quote from: Reprobate on October 07, 2012, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: NEHPF on June 23, 2012, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: KMusselman on June 23, 2012, 01:45:13 AM
just waiting for the Country Music thread....

"just got home... my wife left me... i kicked the dog..."

hee-fuck'n-haw!  :-)

I'm all for a country thread. And since there was a thread about black metal, I don't see no problem with rap.

I don't like the NYC sound at all. Scratching and jazz funk samples don't do nothing for me. I like cheap keyboards and recorded on tape raps. Stories about gang banging, prison and petty crime. Home invasions, street robberies, rape, anti-social violence, teenage prostitution, territoriality, shootings, that's the stuff I want to hear about. Street and prison related black and chicano power without the socially conscious stuff.

Memphis is basically where I consider the best rap came in the nineties. Satanic imagery and lowlife stories. Very lo-fi production, recorded and shared on tapes. Cheesy horror movie soundtrack samples and crappy drum machines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9bWDAicn4A
196 Clique - Crucifix

http://youtu.be/Ws0Ju0BX6h8
Children Of The Corn - Hockey Mask

http://youtu.be/KwtjyP9Auiw
Nigga Creep, Mc Money and Gangsta Gold - I Just Need Yo Cheeze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEONoyjxeVA
DJ Sound - Fuck Being Nice

Also, the greatest Sacramento outsider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpZn9kXyBM
First Degree The DE "Man In Da Place"

And with the recent cannibal zombie hype, I want to remind you of Big Lurch and his PCP rampage on eating titties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikrYNFZblQ



Any link for that DJ Sound tape? Amazing track.

I don't know if any of the better blogs sharing rap are alive, probably not. Atleast I couldn't find anything through google. Soulseek is where it at, as they say.

Reprobate

Ah, I'll give a look there.
But you'd probably appreciate this blog:
http://memphisraptapes.blogspot.com/

RG

A friend borrowed me Paul's Boutique from the Beastie Boys and....mind blown. I can't fucking stand License to Ill with the whole over-the-top pseudo-fratboy attitude and "Fight For Your Right To Party", so I pretty much just ignored Paul's Boutique. It's amazing. So many samples used, some are instantly recognizable (Beatles, Pink Floyd) but it all works together brilliantly. A lot of work went into this.