General butthurt & pc faggotry etc

[ConcreteMascara]

Maybe I'm dumb but when the article talks about burning a poppy, they mean the flower? I don't understand how that's offensive. I think I must be lacking some cultural insight...

[SiClark]

Lots of people wear poppies to symbolise Remembrance Day in the UK. Charity people collect money and give out poppies to people (plastic ones). Although it is quite a big thing here (any politician who wasn't wearing one when on tv would get a lot of shit in the papers) I find it a little strange someone was arrested for this.

[tiny_tove]

let's say they went "a bit" too far...

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I don't know how many know this "red nose day" what just happened... last week? I guess burning some red plastic noses would have been appropriate response for this foolishness invading so many countries already.

[tiny_tove]

One day I will write a book entitled "I fucking hate Patch Addams" with my memories of my two years collaboration with Italian clown doctors.
Notice I was not one of them , I was working for a trust that organised some of their training and I was filming their documentaries, etc.
I hated their guts from day one, not for their job per se, but for the kind of specimen that tend to work in these sort of things.

The only good memory I have of them is the documentary "Clown in Kabul" that was quite intense. These people going in dreadful areas of Afghanistan in the worst days of the war.
The movie shows a lot of Patch Addams, but he was there just few hours and moved back to safer places to get some prices/cash.

[tiny_tove]

I have found this old ones:

http://www.lastfm.it/group/Neofolk+Against+Racism/forum/38956/_/446773

It is very funny the Italian guy that claims that FORESTA DI FERRO are explicit/self-declared nazis and the proof is that we used the fascist (sic) "Eia! Eia! Eia! Alalà!" chant.
Fist we never self-declared ourselves anything.
Then we never used that chant, which instead was a battle slogan of Italian aviators who raided Pola in 1918. The poet/pervert/warrior D'annunzio was often using that.
This gentlemen probably confused us with Laibach. I am flattered, but this is how you spread lies.
The same lie was featured in who makes the n. website, but this time was attached to Ostara, who also never did anything like that.

[tiny_tove]

Going back to the SUN,

I love these contraddictions:

Anger at 'politically correct' sex gangs report
Exclusive
By GRAEME WILSON, Deputy Political Editor
Published: 8 hrs ago
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A REPORT on Britain's child abuse epidemic will deny a problem with Pakistani men targeting white girls — for fear of being seen as racist.

England's deputy children's commissioner Sue Berelowitz is to publish the bombshell report next week saying kids are facing abuse in every town and city.

But, in an explosive move, she will not state there is a specific problem with Pakistani men grooming and abusing vulnerable white girls.

Instead, Ms Berelowitz will argue that young girls are abused by men from all ethnic backgrounds.

Police and social services have already been accused of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse by Pakistani gangs in Rochdale, Lancs, and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

One Whitehall source said: "It's important we don't take a politically-correct approach and pretend there is not a real problem here.

"Obviously abuse has been carried out by men from all sorts of ethnic background.

"But that doesn't mean we cannot say there is an issue about groups of Pakistani men systematically targeting young white girls."

Ms Berelowitz's report is expected to paint a bleak picture of the scale of sex abuse across Britain.

Earlier this year she told a Commons committee how mobs of men and boys inflicted sickening attacks on young girls.

She revealed how one girl was repeatedly raped over several days by boys aged 14 and 15.

Her assailants used BlackBerry Messenger to tell pals to join in.

In many cases, the attackers bragged that they were trying to act out scenes they had watched in hardcore porn movies.

Girls as young as 11 were also forced to perform sex acts on large groups of boys for several hours.

And a group of men forced two boys to have sex and then used video footage to blackmail them into luring girls for them to rape.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4647347/Anger-at-politically-correct-sex-gangs-report.html#ixzz2CNPwQwyk

[Andrew McIntosh]

"Eia! Eia! Eia! Alalà!" chant.

First I heard that chant was Laibach, second was from that LaVey album. I read later that it was supportively the "official" chant of the Italian fascists. Is that true? I quite like it, wouldn't mind knowing a bit more.

[tiny_tove]

Alalà is a greek war cry, Eja  was shouted by Alexander the great while riding his horse Bucefalo.

The origin is previous than fascism, as said D'annunzio used it at forst as a cherful war-cry that replaces anglo-saxon hip hip hurrà.
The original version was eja eja eja alalà. Apparently he got inspired and found it in some Pascoli's books (one of our main writers).
It was used during WWI during the fight against the Austrians.
At first during the raids on Pola in 1917.
It was featured in his poem song La canzone del carnaro:

http://pippopluto2.altervista.org/lettguerra/dannunzio.htm
There are some right wing rock versions of these, but none notable.

During the acclaimed Fiume invasion in 1919, it was shouted by D'annunzio's followers.

Some years later, probably due to the presence of many veterans of WWI in the ranks of fascist militias, the Eja eja alalà (with two ejas) became also their chant, but it was of common usage in military ranks.

Anyway It sounds quite a funny in Italian. One reason while I never enjoyed that much the Laibach tune (who anyway are still among my faves).

here the fascist song you mentioned,Giovinezza. (youth), but the same ryhme should be featured in several songs. I am not a big fan of that era marches, so I can't help more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKMd9RYLqps

[Nil By Mouth]

Alalà is a greek war cry, Eja  was shouted by Alexander the great while riding his horse Bucefalo.

The origin is previous than fascism, as said D'annunzio used it at forst as a cherful war-cry that replaces anglo-saxon hip hip hurrà.
The original version was eja eja eja alalà. Apparently he got inspired and found it in some Pascoli's books (one of our main writers).
It was used during WWI during the fight against the Austrians.
At first during the raids on Pola in 1917.
It was featured in his poem song La canzone del carnaro:

http://pippopluto2.altervista.org/lettguerra/dannunzio.htm
There are some right wing rock versions of these, but none notable.

During the acclaimed Fiume invasion in 1919, it was shouted by D'annunzio's followers.

Some years later, probably due to the presence of many veterans of WWI in the ranks of fascist militias, the Eja eja alalà (with two ejas) became also their chant, but it was of common usage in military ranks.

Anyway It sounds quite a funny in Italian. One reason while I never enjoyed that much the Laibach tune (who anyway are still among my faves).

here the fascist song you mentioned,Giovinezza. (youth), but the same ryhme should be featured in several songs. I am not a big fan of that era marches, so I can't help more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKMd9RYLqps

Best version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot_E1ytUOOc starting by 00:52

[Andrew McIntosh]

Thanks for that.

[tiny_tove]

Thanks for that.

you are welcome!
I am not an expert in that field. I am a big fan of big-band music, but mostly funeral marches, especially Southerners, this jolly singalong tunes sounds terrible to me.

Changing subject:

THE EFFECTS OF HEAVY METAL MUSIC ON AGGRESSION

http://clearinghouse.missouriwestern.edu/manuscripts/209.php

[ConcreteMascara]

Thanks for that.

you are welcome!
I am not an expert in that field. I am a big fan of big-band music, but mostly funeral marches, especially Southerners, this jolly singalong tunes sounds terrible to me.

Changing subject:

THE EFFECTS OF HEAVY METAL MUSIC ON AGGRESSION

http://clearinghouse.missouriwestern.edu/manuscripts/209.php

The song they used was "Jerk Off" by TOOL and the results showed no correlation between heavy metal and violence. Wonder why...


In other news... Indian woman arrested on Monday after making a political comment on Facebook, as well as her friend who "liked" the comment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20405457

[FreakAnimalFinland]

heavy metal, violence, dead animals, nazism.. almost week now been some talk of Goatmoon live gig in Helsinki. Covered in metro.fi (and their newspaper) couple of times, then Radio City, today biggest tabloid made almost full page feature. I was told there was talk in other radiochannels as well. Not very big deal, as band has played live plenty, and there has often been animal carcasses on stage for live gigs. Not very big deal, but of course plenty of discussion in various internet boards as well. Line-up, real names with all the "connections" (other bands etc) exposed in leftist activist forum.
Basically in short: journalists make story in paper, asks statements from venue and organizer. They will promise to do something about it. Newspaper prints front page headline story of "NAZI BAND CANCELLED IN LAST MINUTE", but nobody ever agreed about cancellation, just some small restrictions what can be done on stage. Gig happens, followed with "scandal". I guess it will be forgotten in couple of days, but seems quite good thing to see BM band appear in news for other things than nomination of cultural awards or whatever..

[bitewerksMTB]

I read something on the NWN forum about Goatmoon- I was thinking it said GM cancelled but same members played in another band? Maybe that was another time. There was a big black metal fest there, right?