PLAYLIST with COMMENTS/REVIEWS

[FreakAnimalFinland]

casual consumer of noise that lacked the obsessive dedication to closely follow the labels activities on a daily basis.

I think that is more of "consumer" behavior than not following. All "obsessions" ain't worth of praise. I don't think any label should require following on daily basis. If it means that one could miss something completely due lack of checking emails nonstop, I think label isn't for "obsessive fanatics", but for slaves of worst modern lifestyles.

Of course, with Finders, I assume this is not the case. Someone who visit this forum, may have come across label name or scans of flyers and lists of what is to be done and even what has been planned. Not sure if contact addresses has been posted, but I'd assume asking artists who did release on them could help if one wants to get in touch. In a way, I do appreciate that one needs to do little more than "click to order". But at this point also making things unnecessarily difficult seems artificial. Like: advertising, but not giving contact address. This is gimmick. If you don't want people to talk about label or get the releases, there are way better way to achieve it than advertising.

There are lots of secret releases, club releases, closed forums, closed social media groups, for many kinds of transgressive music. There are also releases that are available, but not strongly promoted. You get them if you ask them. This year I received surprisingly many "closed BM circles" offering some ultra limited "secret" BM tapes or vinyl. However, I rather would get TDK with dub of bands rehearsal demo, that is given when one is in contact with makers. Tapes that are dubbed when needed. Not some hand numbered secret collectible item. Latter one always appears a bit more like ongoing PR to create aura of mystery. As if it would be achieved by gimmicks and not by actual substance. Giving and getting "rare" items when being in personal contact is vastly different.

I don't think I have any Finders releases at this moment, but maybe some day! Stuff appears like something I could like, but so far not managed to finish arrangement with label. Not been fanatically begging, though...

[david lloyd jones]

casual consumer of noise that lacked the obsessive dedication to closely follow the labels activities on a daily basis.

I think that is more of "consumer" behavior than not following. All "obsessions" ain't worth of praise. I don't think any label should require following on daily basis. If it means that one could miss something completely due lack of checking emails nonstop, I think label isn't for "obsessive fanatics", but for slaves of worst modern lifestyles.

Of course, with Finders, I assume this is not the case. Someone who visit this forum, may have come across label name or scans of flyers and lists of what is to be done and even what has been planned. Not sure if contact addresses has been posted, but I'd assume asking artists who did release on them could help if one wants to get in touch. In a way, I do appreciate that one needs to do little more than "click to order". But at this point also making things unnecessarily difficult seems artificial. Like: advertising, but not giving contact address. This is gimmick. If you don't want people to talk about label or get the releases, there are way better way to achieve it than advertising.

There are lots of secret releases, club releases, closed forums, closed social media groups, for many kinds of transgressive music. There are also releases that are available, but not strongly promoted. You get them if you ask them. This year I received surprisingly many "closed BM circles" offering some ultra limited "secret" BM tapes or vinyl. However, I rather would get TDK with dub of bands rehearsal demo, that is given when one is in contact with makers. Tapes that are dubbed when needed. Not some hand numbered secret collectible item. Latter one always appears a bit more like ongoing PR to create aura of mystery. As if it would be achieved by gimmicks and not by actual substance. Giving and getting "rare" items when being in personal contact is vastly different.

I don't think I have any Finders releases at this moment, but maybe some day! Stuff appears like something I could like, but so far not managed to finish arrangement with label. Not been fanatically begging, though...

according to some artistes of the label, you do!
that said my aguement was about quality as opposed to relying on (lack of) quantity for your value.

I may be wrong here, but there seems to be lots of labels pumping up their product, maybe with a 'name', to advance.

[Vermin Marvin]

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having bought my first throbbing gristle album in 1979 and followed the genre ever since, I hardly see myself as casual.
I have however, seen new labels attempt to be important using small edition numbers and mystique talk things up.
btw I am n the mailing list
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Guessed you are bitter 15 year old newborn nihilist or something but i was wrong, my bad.

[david lloyd jones]

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having bought my first throbbing gristle album in 1979 and followed the genre ever since, I hardly see myself as casual.
I have however, seen new labels attempt to be important using small edition numbers and mystique talk things up.
btw I am n the mailing list

Guessed you are bitter 15 year old newborn nihilist or something but i was wrong, my bad.
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no, honestly, no problem, just a bitter 55year old nihilist with attachment issues and a drink issue amongst other things

[MMMM]

I was interested in Finders initially and I suppose I still am(didn't hear anything, didn't buy anything so far due to not being from the US), but the pseudo-underground posturing does feel more like a forced image thing than anything else, taking into account their presence and activities on large social media sites and the whole prolonged "promotional" cycle that lead up to the first batch of releases on those social media sites.
An elongated campaign of teaser images and audio snippets etc. instead of just letting the finished work speak for itself, felt like the worst sort of contrived hype-baiting. There's nothing particularly old-school, underground or inaccessible about Tumblr and Instagram, is there?

Just announcing the releases on a forum like this one once they were ready to go would have felt a lot more genuine but hey, if they did that it might have taken them a few weeks to sell all their stuff instead of a few hours, and who can wait that long?

I have been listening to and very much enjoying This Is Always Where You've Lived by Secret Boyfriend. Damaged and nocturnal collection of synth or guitar driven pop/folk interspersed with equally primitive atmospheric pieces and occasional outbursts of noise and distortion. Feels like something that would have come out on Siltbreeze when that label was still great. I can't praise it enough.

[david lloyd jones]

casual consumer of noise that lacked the obsessive dedication to closely follow the labels activities on a daily basis.

I think that is more of "consumer" behavior than not following. All "obsessions" ain't worth of praise. I don't think any label should require following on daily basis. If it means that one could miss something completely due lack of checking emails nonstop, I think label isn't for "obsessive fanatics", but for slaves of worst modern lifestyles.

Of course, with Finders, I assume this is not the case. Someone who visit this forum, may have come across label name or scans of flyers and lists of what is to be done and even what has been planned. Not sure if contact addresses has been posted, but I'd assume asking artists who did release on them could help if one wants to get in touch. In a way, I do appreciate that one needs to do little more than "click to order". But at this point also making things unnecessarily difficult seems artificial. Like: advertising, but not giving contact address. This is gimmick. If you don't want people to talk about label or get the releases, there are way better way to achieve it than advertising.

There are lots of secret releases, club releases, closed forums, closed social media groups, for many kinds of transgressive music. There are also releases that are available, but not strongly promoted. You get them if you ask them. This year I received surprisingly many "closed BM circles" offering some ultra limited "secret" BM tapes or vinyl. However, I rather would get TDK with dub of bands rehearsal demo, that is given when one is in contact with makers. Tapes that are dubbed when needed. Not some hand numbered secret collectible item. Latter one always appears a bit more like ongoing PR to create aura of mystery. As if it would be achieved by gimmicks and not by actual substance. Giving and getting "rare" items when being in personal contact is vastly different.

I don't think I have any Finders releases at this moment, but maybe some day! Stuff appears like something I could like, but so far not managed to finish arrangement with label. Not been fanatically begging, though...

I believe you have been party to swaps regarding finders releases(according to the relevant artistes), but nonetheless, the general argument holds true.
that said, limited edition releases don't make for automatic classic releases, which,i suspect some labels are aiming for.

[Brad]

that said, limited edition releases don't make for automatic classic releases, which,i suspect some labels are aiming for.

This sounds backwards to me, shouldn't classic releases be the most widely appreciated? 

[david lloyd jones]

that said, limited edition releases don't make for automatic classic releases, which,i suspect some labels are aiming for.

This sounds backwards to me, shouldn't classic releases be the most widely appreciated? 

quite possibly.
other releases
should sink or swim according to the smart label  ... l

[sterilization]

Yr lucky I don't run a label or a distro that yr interested in because you would be blacklisted for being a fucking pussy.

[FreakAnimalFinland]

I know most people worship Paradise Disowned, Herecy or Monstrous Soul, but since I first heard Lustmord  ‎– A Document Of Early Acoustic & Tactical Experimentation , I thought that is absolute the best. In these early recordings, Lustmord was both atmospheric and ritualistic, but also damn noisy and violently brutal at times. It's far more of industrial-noise. I take that anytime, any day, instead of for example his later days soundtrack type of soundscapes.

Perhaps even better than the CD, is the Vinyl On Demand box Things That Were. It has pretty much the same stuff as the CD had, but further c. 40 mins worth of material, including unreleased recordings. Went through the triple LP set today and thought maybe I should return to early albums and see if I just remember them differently. Luckily for those who don't care of vinyl boxes, in 2016, Infinite Fog label re-issued this same set as 2xCD. Absolute mandatory for those who like 80's industrial, that is done with great talent, but at the same time element of rawness and violence blends into dark nightmarish soundscapes. In this material, there is still even shouted vocals, besides eerie chanting.

[Andrew McIntosh]

I've always rated "Place Where The Black Stars Hang" as my favourite Lustmord release. Just works brilliantly on every level.

[absoluten calfeutrail]

Iannis Xenakis ‎– GRM Works 1957-1962 LP (Recollection GRM 2013) Listening in between some contemporary guttural noise works, considering the profound degree to which Xenakis’ sound language informs so much of the present day underground action that appeals to me. The previously unavailable version of Bohor (1962) occupying the B-side here is just colossal and cavernous, ultimately reaching a strikingly severe clanging detonation.

Sadio ‎– Sophisticated Methods In Torture CS (Freak Animal 2015) My pick for the best FA action from the last few years. I revisit this one a lot for its grimy scenes from a private room. Straddles the divide between unreservedly punishing screech and unexpectedly pleasurable crunch expertly. A clammy passage or two along the way provides some respite, though they feel rather like quietly wiping up your own piss from the floor under threat of further whipping than an actual reprieve. 

Murder Book – Sozguv CS (Turgid Animal 2008) Single sided bleak and subdued rumble from George Proctor’s Murder Book. Pretty much fuck all happens for the duration here – grey sky, watery coffee, public transport, negative waves. I’ve listened to it way more over the years than I should. I'm realising I haven't followed up other work under this name despite how much I've listened to this tape - can anyone tell me if the other material is of a similar temperament?

[Dr Alex]

I've always rated "Place Where The Black Stars Hang" as my favourite Lustmord release. Just works brilliantly on every level.

Beside old classics, my fave from him is "The Word As Power". Absolutely amazing album!

these days:
Grobschnitt - 79:10 17xcd
Man. this is amazing boxset! I love this band since my childhood and finally I have all their proper releases. "Solar Music Live" is one of best live albums!

[ImpulsyStetoskopu]

I know most people worship Paradise Disowned, Herecy or Monstrous Soul, but since I first heard Lustmord  ‎– A Document Of Early Acoustic & Tactical Experimentation , I thought that is absolute the best. In these early recordings, Lustmord was both atmospheric and ritualistic, but also damn noisy and violently brutal at times. It's far more of industrial-noise. I take that anytime, any day, instead of for example his later days soundtrack type of soundscapes.

Perhaps even better than the CD, is the Vinyl On Demand box Things That Were. It has pretty much the same stuff as the CD had, but further c. 40 mins worth of material, including unreleased recordings. Went through the triple LP set today and thought maybe I should return to early albums and see if I just remember them differently. Luckily for those who don't care of vinyl boxes, in 2016, Infinite Fog label re-issued this same set as 2xCD. Absolute mandatory for those who like 80's industrial, that is done with great talent, but at the same time element of rawness and violence blends into dark nightmarish soundscapes. In this material, there is still even shouted vocals, besides eerie chanting.

The same impressions. I could write even that "Heresy" is more and more worse for me. Time ruins this album.

[gabalgabow]

LOSS
Crushing and dark doom death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPNjZj3Uis4